It's very difficult at this time to look at the free agency and hope we can sign some of the free agents who will be available due to the potential lock out that could happen in March. I will have a different article on who I believe the Seahawks should go after in free agency later on. For now, let's focus on who the Seahawks should retain from the current roster. These are my opinions only. Feel free to blog who you want to resign. I have listed the top tier by numbered priority.
Here is the list (I may have missed a few) of current Seahawks that will be free agents: QB Matt Hasselbeck, OT Sean Locklear, C Chris Spencer, DE Raheem Brock, DT Craig Terrill, DT Brandon Mebane, OLB Leroy Hill, DB Kelly Jennings, S Lawyer Milloy, K Olindo Mare, LB Will Herring, RB Leon Washington, OL Mansfield Wrotto, WR Brandon Stokely, OL Ray Willis, and DB Kennard Cox.If you would like to read the rest of the article click the "read more" option below.
#1 priority is QB Matt Hasselbeck. If we examine who is available in the free agency, Matt is the best option for now. I believe a two year contract should be the best choice. Whether the two sides can agree on the money is another story. Charlie Whitehurst may not be the future of this team from what we all witnessed from him this past year. Coach Carroll and GM Schneider may still believe he is. Yes, we can certainly draft a QB this year, but even the college prospects, from the numbers we are picking from, aren't that appealing. Most of the college QBs need grooming for a few years at least. Signing Matt and drafting someone to take over for the future is the best route as of today. There could be some trade potential out there with other teams with some QB's like Kevin Kolb, but I am not sure we have that sort of ammo.
#2 priority is DT Brandon Mebane. this guy is a monster. I believe one of the best DT's in the free agency. When he and Colin Cole were together, opposing offenses had a harder time running the ball. He disrupts the middle of the field and can find penetration at times to make the QB run to the edges just in time for Clemons, Brock, and Bryant to eat them up. For the right price, Mebane should be resigned.
#3 priority is C Chris Spencer. He has had some rough times during the past years but watching him play this past year, he is ready for the next level. He has that rapport with Hasselbeck currently and has shown toughness snapping the ball on a bad hand almost all year. Very good Centers are difficult to find. Although Max Unger was drafted to take the place of Spencer, Unger is still younger and I believe needs a few more years to grow. Signing Spencer to a heavy incentive, short term contract seems feasible and he should sign for a fairly decent price.
#4 priority is DE Raheem Brock. Raheem Brock and Chris Clemons combined this last season for over 20 sacks. Together they were listed as the #3 duo in the NFL with the most sacks. You have to be happy with that. Brock is not the best DE in the league but combined with Clemons, they both create major havoc for QB's. When Red Bryant comes back from his injury next season and if the Seahawks resign Brock, we will have three powerful DE's that should help the D-Line.
#5 priority is RB/KR Leon Washington. This guy was awesome. A major fan favorite. Without him this past year we would be in big trouble with kick and punt returns. Yeah the whole Special Teams were a contributor but it really takes someone special to plow through the holes and with speed that can take your breath away. The only other time in the past few years that I have seen teams specifically kick away from a KR/PR is Devin Hester. Leon Washington is right up there. He is also versatile enough to play RB if we need him.
#6 priority is K Olindo Mare. Olindo has been the best kicker that Seattle has had in years. Josh Brown was great at field goals but did not manage touch backs very well. Mare is getting up there with age but he can easily go another few years. I believe he wants to stay in Seattle to finish out his career.
#7 priority is WR Brandon Stokely. What did you say? Are you serious? Yeah, I am serious. Stokely is an aging veteran as well but is one of the best third down/slot receivers I have ever seen. Even Hasselbeck has said the same thing this past season. Stokely's experience will play a crucial part in the development of Golden Tate.
Those are my seven choices so far as of today. They may change within the next few weeks or month. I think we need some depth on our Offensive line. We may have to sign Locklear, Willis, or one of the two to help out. I could see the Seahawks using the 1st round pick on another OL player. Who knows right now though.
I am sure you all have your own opinions though. I would love to hear from you. What do you think we should do and who should we resign?
One of Cole or Mebane needs to be gone this year. That combination is modestly stuffing the run at the expense of pass rush. Mebane's a terrific player but not suited to a two-gap 3-tech at all. Either replace him with a genuine 3-tech, or move him back to over tackle and - well, find a genuine 3-tech anyway.
Hasselbeck should be retained, but only because there's no real alternatives this year. The only one I'd entertain is Kyle Orton.
article I read that has some suggested free agents. Dont agree with all of them but most/some seem like they could really help. A few I didnt think of as well. Gets me hopeful lol
Why don't we sign Matt to a 12 year contract for Tom Brady money. That way in 2023 Hass will be due for another lucky 4 TD career game at home against a bad road playoff team with no defense. Many Hawks fans would much rather lose games watching their golden boy Mattie start every week instead of winning with any other quarterback who has genuine talent.
I guarantee that the Hawks will finish the season 3rd in the NFC West with Hass next season. Even a blind squirrel finds a nut once in a while but don't piss away your franchise over a loser.
@txhawkfan @PAhawkfan No one is saying Matt should even be considered in the Tom Brady or Payton Manning conversations. Due to lack of options and the game intellegence he has, that is why you have to resign him. He doesnt even need to start I'm sure the coaching knows he is on his way out and will work to get a guy that can take over. Getting a franchise qb takes time and in the meantime we have a medicore guy that can be good if we get his supporting cast good. Then when the next guy comes in he will already have a good supporting cast. We need to get this team used to winning again not loosing the the last game of the year for a draft pick. That is stupid. If the Jets can make Sanchez look good than we can make Matt look good. It just takes a supporting cast which we all need and want anyways.
@PAhawkfan Well sorry than, this is an issue that we must forever part ways, I respectfully disagree completely. I cannot find any rational reason as to why Hass is exempt from being gauged by the same standards as every other QB in the league. Matt did not make anyone good, a certain man named Holgren designed the perfect system in which Matt could succeed with his limited skills.Same with Darrell Jacson and Jeremy Stevens, both had liited success due to an exeptionally well designed system not becasue of Matt.
Matt did not take us to the SB on his back, it was done on the back of an amazing running game and a suprisingly succesfull bend but don't break defense that year. Yes he played a valid and crtical part but he was not the reasonwe made it. Although he did play a huge part (along with the refs)in our losing the SB with a boneheaded 4th quarter int.
You need to look back at this season, because for the most part while the run blocking sucked the pass pro was pretty darn good, so nope that one doesnt fly either.
You point to Brady like it's some glaring aproval of Matt but fail to see that 1 he had no running game, 2 he had worse recievers than Matt did but yet he outperformed Matt week in and week out against tougher opposition. Manning while he had a bad stretch of 3 games still outperformed Matt without any even decent recievers at all. Rivers put up stellar #'s this year with no good recieving options, heck they had to bring in old ass Patrick Crayton. Heck even Rapelessberger does better and don't even try to say Ward is a true #1 reciever he had 59 stinking receptions this year.
And don't get all high and mighty with your respect for Hass like the rest of us don't. I respect Matt for what he has done for my forever team! He will forever be one of my favorite Hawks, I just refuse to go overboard in my views of him, his talent, or his success.
I am so done arguing with people who bring no facts to the argument instead relying on heartfelt love for their guy. "Oh Matt is so great because of what he did 3 years ago" "Oh Matt needs to say because he took us to our only SB" "Oh Matt is so charismatic" "Oh stats don't matter for Matt because he never had a good team" GIVE ME A BREAK.
Only and I mean only on this site do you find this sort of crap,everywhere else even the Matt supporters attempt to use more than sentiment.
If you all have not noticed, your site has gone to crap, no one gets on here anymore (I know it's the off season but I know of 2 other Seahawk blogs that are still booming) because anyone who differes from your lovely view of Matt has been berated and run off. Even 80 when he first started tried to reason with others about Hass until he finally gave up and decided to simply troll because no one would listen and everyone resorted to either ignoring his arguments or name calling.
Sorry SA writers, I have enjoyed you guys for about 3 years now, but I am done.
Sluggo, Slave, well I gues you guys are the last ones left, it has been good chatting with you, but I'm out!
@PAhawkfan @txhawkfan I couldn't agree more with PA. I believe the biggest thing at the qb position in the nfl is smarts. This we have in Hass. He hasn't had any help the last 3 years. You can't blame the last 3 years of shitty d, lack of a run game, and management with thier heads up their ass on our qb. He can do great when given time and consistent recievers around him. We have some good recievers we just signed to deals that will help with the stability at that position. I garantee if we can get the run game a kick in the ass, and the d to play with some pride we will be back on top with hass. Most of his picks and bad plays happen when our d has allowed the game to get so out of control we have already lost the game anywayz. You cant blame the guy for trying to make a play when noone around him wants to step up and make one. There are 53 guys on a football team and everyone thinks that hass is the only one to take any blame.
P.S. Hf 80 is a complete retard.
@txhawkfan T'm sorry but i can not agree. No matter the system, with an elite receiver any QB can have awesome stats. With a great defense a QB can preform well. With an awesome running game a QB does better. Those are all facts of the nfl. Hass has never had a stockpile of talent and depth around him, and he has shown more leadership and toughness than most players in the nfl have or will ever shoiw in their careers. This is something he picked up from Favre. Yes, he gets hurt and misses time, but he plays through injuries just as much and has the balls to play with a broken wrist behind a swiss cheese line (aside from the LT position in the games Okung was in, Hass never got protection).
Hass has had help from a run game in ONE season during his tenure as a seahawks head coach. He has never had a standout defense that would dominate a game and take weight off of his shoulder. Ask Tom Brady how it feels to have a defense as porous as a sponge as it seemed they were against the Jets in the playoffs.
Bottom line, Hass has more ability in that he is a smarter, better leader with more to offer than Palmer. He is also, in MY OPINION, a better QB because all that he has done has been with players that were not of quality talent. Hass has always been golden when given time and receivers that dont drop balls. He is also a dominant playoff QB that understand how to win games that matter and does not get discouraged when down a few points late in the fourth. The interceptions and stats do not do justice for what Hass has done throughout his career. I will forever respect him as a player, and as a man. His unquestionable toughness, competative spirit, charismatic nature, and his football smarts elivate his play and the play of those around him (to a degree). Hell, Hass turned Darrell Jackson into a good receiving option, he turned Jeremy Stevens into a viable threat in the red zone, and his ability to pass got us into the divisional round of the playoffs on three occasions that I recall. What has Palmer done that possibly compares to the accomplishments of Matt Hasselbeck? He is no leader and is a gunslinger with limited accuracy. Given a great receiving duo and a strong o-line he put up stats. When the line declined in production his numbers fell. I honestly thing the Hawks have had the worst average starting line for the past 3 years. This, i believe, is the cause of our abysmal fall from the graces of the playoffs. Lets get some big F/tmen in here and watch Hass pick people apart for another year or two until he passes the torch to the prodigy he has helped to groom
You can toss around that excuse making junk if you want to but every year less people except it. Hass has had decent talent around him, also has played in a MUCH less competitive division and still cannot compare to Palmer. I mean can you imagine if Hass had to play against the Steeler and Raven defenses twice a year? Heck even the Cleveland defenses have been better than most in the NFC West. I do not buy the arguments that continually excuse Matt for all the bad play, it's rediculous. Get this straight, he has never been a consistant top teir elite QB, he does not have to physical tools to be such and never has. He is smart and used to make good quick decisions, that could help oversome his deficiancies. But now that his physical skills have eroded so far he no longer can make up for them with smarts.
The 1 reciever argument is actually invalid in the system that Hass is supposed to have flourished in. The WC offense is not designed to operate around any single reciever but provide many options to the QB, so even though Matt has not had that big time #1 he has had plenty of solid possession recievers which is what is needed and most desired for the WC offense. Hence the reason Holgren never worried about WR as much as other coaches. Yes some guys like the greatest ever Jerry Rice flourished, but that does no change the intentions of the WC offense.
Now just to be clear here, I do not want the Seahawks to sign Palmer, I was simply challenging you on a rediculous comment in which you claimed that Palmer had less left in the tank than Hass. The mere facts in my previous post about his consistancy and successs prove that beyond a shadow of a doubt.
@txhawkfan @Hawksfan80 Yes, you are absolutely right. Palmer has had better stats than Hass. I would never argue that. The fact that Hass put up stats at all with minimal talent around him though? Palmer has always had a top tier receiver in Chad Johnson and he's had talent put around the team to help hm do well, a luxury Hass has never had. dissagree with that? then please, indulge my curiosity and tell me who Hass has had to throw to? Has he had a SINGLE legitimate number one receiver in his entire career? Anyone at all that was among the best in the league after or before leaving Seattle? I would love to receive an answer. (I feel as though the response most would say is Deon Branch going back to New England, but not only was he "hurt" his entire tenure in Seattle, he was also the number one or 2 which he is not in NE. He is/was their slot/number 3)
@PAhawkfan @Hawksfan80 While I don't go as far as 80 does, where I do draw the line is at rediculous comments. Palmer is not wrose off than Matt, even in this last year being a poor year for him he still put up measurable numbers that matter (like DYAR and DVOA heck even in the worthless passer rating Palmer destroyes Matt and has for his career in all but 2 years) that top Matt every year except for 2005. That's right Plamer in a down year played better than Matt has every year except for one. Plus he has had 1 major injury that forced him to the sidelines, Palmer missed 12 games in 2008 becasue of an injury to his thrwoing arm, before that he played in 51 consecutive games (Matts best is 35 which ended in 2004) since recovering from that he has played in 33 straight games only 2 off of Matt's all time best which he will never reach again, all the while remember putting in far better seasons that Matt has his entire year except for 2005. All that plus the fact that he is 4.5 years younger means it is rediculous to say that he has less left than Matt does. We all love Matt (well maybe not 80) but we also must be honset, Matt has been consistablty one of the worst QB's in the league for multiple seasons now. HE IS DONE!
@Hawksfan80 ur an idiot. Rather than bash on Hass why not admit that you misjudged him and that he can still play. He gives us a better chance to win than ANY rookie or free agent and he has had some time to get used to personel. What I saw out of him this season was some growing pains since everyone he was on good rapport with was replaced and some pathetic blocking and defensive play leading to pressure and no choice but to pass the ball. Of his interceptions, most were not directly the fault of Hass. If you truly feel we should not resign him (at least to mentor a young talent) what, pray tell, do you suggest we do for QB? Would you like to watch (and hope) Whitehurst is the next thing only to be dissatisfied because he will be inconsistant and play like a backup? Would you like a rookie like Locker to preform horribly and bust (same with mallett). What about getting another Aging QB with less gas left than Matt AND sacrifice a draft pick for palmer? No? Oh, well than we should go after the replacement in a born follower and ego maniac in Vince Young to replace Hass? No still? There are no other options that present a better opportunity for the teams (continued? depending on your viewpoint) success!
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Just saw that Zorn was fired by the Ravens as QB coach despite Flacco having his best year. I say go out and get the guy. If Hass is sticking around another year, he'd be comfortable with Zorn. Zorn seems to have done a nice job (with Holmie, of course) in developing Hass. He might be good developing the next young QB we get...like Locker (who might just fall to #25 if the Senior Bowl is any indication).
ok, so Jeff Fisher is no longer with the Titans. I beleive he should be hired immedietly as our new defensive coordinator! He is a masterful defensive minded coach and could work wonders with our team. As you may recall they had arguably as good of a defense as the Steelers a few years back (some would say better) and that was with personel that were unknown to the general public.... I would love that signing but IDK if he would come without the asst. Head Coach tag and we already have one assistant lol.
Just signed a former starting DT from the Giants.
Let's sign Cromartie.......Hillarity will ensue.
Hasselbeck may take more time to get done, in the mean time:
#1 Sign Mare, Washington, and Mebane right now as essential starters
#2 Sign Brock and Stokely as solid role players
Here is the article; sorry forgot to put the link with my first comment.
Chris Spencer? You can't be serious. This year, on NFL.com, he was rated the 2nd worst starting center in the league. I went back to look for the link and couldn't find it, but I did find an article were it lists him as the worst center picked in the draft since the 2000 NFL season.
He is extremely slow, an bad interior blocker, and possibly the worst I've ever seen at shifting to pick up a gap blitz.
I cannot believe you would say he is a primary objective to resign, especially over a playmaker like Leon Washington, or over a consistent vet like Stokely. Awful.
Spencer is a low priority and only to compete for backup role. Primary options for center are Unger, a free agent like former USC Trojan and pro bowler Ryan Kalil, or a rookie like Pouncey, whose brother was declared the best on the Steelers this year. The offensive line scheme they are using requires a brilliant center as they are like a coach on the field, reading the defense, and directing the line.
@Evoxx I'm not a Spencer lover but he did beat everyone else out last year and played with a broken hand all season to boot. I'm sure Carroll loves his toughness and sometimes it takes a center years to become an all pro type. Carroll singled him out last preseason as a player they liked. Robbie Tobeck wasn't considered a top flight center until later in his career and only made the pro bowl once in the twilight of his carreer while in Seattle. Spencer missed a couple of seasons with injuries so he's not got the experience his years in the league would indicate and he's been through several schemes and coaches so who knows what a good line coach like Tom Cable and some stability in scheme might do for him. I trust that if Pete, John, and Tom bring him back, they see something you probably don't in him and I'm willing to trust that evaluation should it occur.
If Spencer can be signed for a reasonable price, he would be at the very least a good backup to the position but if he does sign, he'll have the opportunity to compete for the best spot he can attain and if that's the starter, so be it. That's how it works here. If three others beat him out in camp, you have nothing to worry about but Tom Cable loves tough linemen and Spencer might surprise coming back healthy with a good snapping hand. He's a player you certainly don't break the bank for but there are far worse linemen than him out there. I've often thought he might play well at the guard position so let's just wait and see how it all shakes out.
One other small point is that the only players we can sign now is our own and with the uncertainty of where free agency is going this season, the Seahawks might be wise to lock up as many of their players as they can just in case. I know some teams are doing just that so they at least have players they know and can plan for in the fold should a really wierd situation delevope with respect to free agency.
@Evoxx With Pete Carroll there is no competing for a backup slot. If you're on the team, you're competing for a starting spot period. Spencer, if retained will have the opportunity to retain his starting spot if he can earn it and that's the way it should be. Do you really want to start Unger if Spencer beats him out in camp? You don't start your second best center.
I think that in order to determine who we should resign we the Hawks also need to determine who they are going to be getting back from IR. If Max Unger comes back, do we need Spencer? Just something to think about. Do we have a list of everyone that is on IR for the Hawks?
@eduff72 Chris Baker, Red Bryant, Deon Butler, Chris Henry, Anthony Heygood, Leroy Hill, Jameson Konz, Roy Lewis, Anthony McCoy, Chester Pitts, Junior Siavii, Isaiah Stanback, Max Unger, Derek Walker, Ray Willis
Mebane - yes
Hass - I suppose so, I really would like to see him develope into a QB coach for starters after mentoring or first pick QB Ryan Mallet for a year
Spencer - meh...
Leon - FOR SURE ! give this guy the rock
Brock - yah, for depth
Stokley - ya
mare - ya
I'm more interested in what direction the draft is going to go, and what will happen with the CBA mess, as that could completely blow up the draft.
Without any FA signings before the draft, it will be crazy...
Not that I am big on Mallett myself, but every year seems to be the same excuse for not taking a chance on a QB. Over the last at least 3 years people have been throwing out the "next years QB class is stronger" argument. That was the claim last year, it will be the claim next year too. At some point you have to role the dice.
@sluggo If you dont mind my asking, why do you want Mallet? Wouldnt we be better served waiting until next year to draft the future QB when the class is stronger? I am all for trading our first round pick for a third this year and first next year (more if we can get it) especially if we get the players we all want out of free agency. With two picks in next year's first round we could snag Luck by trading around in the first or get Barkley who is regarded as one of the most complete prospects to enter the draft in a long time and will be available next year. In my opinion Mallet is a strong armed attitude afflicted player with poor accuracy, similar to another first round pick that failed in Oakland by the name of Jamarcus Russel. I'm just saying, I'd like to hear your pitch for Mallet, not trying to start an argument.
Also, Wrotto has been good when healthy. He's learned a lot and has truly progressed during his time here. Let's not leave his name out of re-signing talks.
Brandon Mebane, Raheem Brock, Leon Washington, Brandon Stokley, Matt Hasslebeck, Chris Spencer, Olindo Mare, Will Herring and Leroy Hill last... Is Chris Clemons not a free agent... I hope not, because if he is he goes right after Mebane
Matt Hasselbeck - Raheem Brock - Brandon MeBane - Leroy Hill - Olindo Mare - Will Herring - Leon Washington - Brandon Stockley...
These are the only Players that should be re-signed on this list and the Hawks NEED to draft O-linemen heavy in the draft EARLY...
I'm curious to see what comes of this Carson Palmer situation. He has said he will retire if they don't deal him. To me they have to deal him to get some value out of him if he really feels that way. I'm not sure if I would like to see him here in seattle but I'm sure that his former coach Mr. Pete Carroll has an opinion of him. He sure looked like an up and coming star before the Steelers crushed his knee in the playoffs a few years ago.... What do you guys think?
i also agree with your choices but i dont think thta spencer has to go we can definitely upgraded there!
I like the list with the exception of Chris Spencer. We have tried for too long with him its time to cut ties. He is one of those guys that starts for us but would be a 2nd or even a 3rd stringer somewhere else.