Report: Hawks Trying to Trade Housh

Let me guess. He wasn't tall enough? He complains too much? I guess one would have to believe big with all these moves.

I have to believe with all these moves we are in bigger rebuild than i thought unless we somehow get V jax for this somehow.
If we get rid of Housh and dont replace him i think PC is looking more into competing next year and year after and getting young guys experience this year. I have an idea Hasselbeck is out of here after this year no matter what. Pete is completely rebuilding this team. 3 years from now we will contend for championship. I hope not. I want it NOW!

You cant have something now when our team would not produce it now. Even if it is another 4th round pick I would do the deal because housh is not going to be on this team this year and if he is, now he will be counterproductive. They now have to get rid of him because he is not going to play for a team that does not believe in him.
I regretably say we take a 4th and pay his salary for this year so that someone will take him. And we make it a 3rd based on production. Not that I want him gone but I don't see him being here after he has been placed on the trading block, just make sure we get something.
Enough 4th round picks and we may be able to trade into the early second round come draft day!

Williams is turning out well and we allready have butler, and Tate to play the slot so we do loose a player now but we gain upside and experience for years to come.
If we get a 4th for him we could just tell the chargers they can have all of our 4th round picks for V jack

But all this still doesn't take care of the running back problem. Let the young WRs get on the job training, they'll do alright. Use the draft picks to get us a competent RB

If they are really going to trade Housh, how about to NE? Maybe Housh and a mid level draft pick for Maroney and Mankins(sign and trade). If he won't play for the Pats maybe he will for the Hawks. They may be eager to get something for him. That greatly improves the O-line in a hurry.

TJ has heard the rumors according to jim mora..http://twitter.com/JimLMora

As much as I hate leinart, could carroll possibly send housh on a trade to cardinals for leinart?

Cut Housh and absorb the $$$. No one is going to trade for that level of $ baggage.

Profootballtalk is saying that the hawks are trying to clear space for vincent! MAKE IT HAPPEN!

Just wondering about that Maroney Mankins things someone talked about. Does Mankins fit our scheme.

Don't like the thought of giving up any picks though.

I can see trading Housh for a couple draft picks and letting the young guys play and develop. I hope they do not trade for Vincent Jackson, however. He sounds like another diva. Next years draft will have plenty of young WR's. We should set up the 2011 draft. Suffe thru a down year, take Locker and a RB.

Housh will be better off on another team anyway, our good receivers in Seattle deserve a better quarterback than Hass.

still hating on hass? I think it's just a cover up for your crush on him.

Jackson never struck me as a diva. I think its AJ Smith that's the diva. Vjax isn't afraid to back down and neither is Smith, its a unstoppable force vs an immovable object.

help! does anyone know where i can watch the game online?

Not hating on Hass, just pointing out again that he is the one holding the Hawks back instead of blaming everyone else like the receivers, OL, coaching etc.

if hass is holding them back, whitehurst would be stopping them dead in their tracks. he's not ready.

1st of all, stop hating on Hass. Now that we're putting an offensive line together he'll easily put up 4000 yards and 25 tds.

2nd - Housh is a great receiver. But the veteran character comes from Branch and their is plenty of talent in the young guys. Housh is better trade bait and will shed more salary. Trade him to the Rams. They win 6-8 games with him and SF has to play him twice too.

I don't think Hawksfan80 is hating on #8...

How many people hated on Alexander when he fell off? Oh that's right EVERYONE!

Hasselbeck's best years are behind him, which we all know. He's not Peyton Manning or Brett Favre. He's not going to throw for 16 / 4,000 / 35 / 10. I'm thinking 9 / 1,800 / 13 / 15.

Re-building a team means giving the young guys/future of the team as much experience as you can. If the Hawks are 5-3 halfway through you may think about going for it, but anything less and you are better off emptying the bench.

As far as Housh goes the best odds are Housh for a 4th (3rd based on performance). We would have to cover a percentage of the contract, so maybe an expiring contract.

Hawks get...
Bad contract (expiring hopefully)
4th - 3rd pick (performance-based... 1,000 yards, 10 TD's, pro-bowl, or snaps)

Other team...
Houshmandzadeh
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and a coke and a smile

odds are we get another 5th rounder, maybe 4th max. his 7 mil is crazy high per year and only goes up from there.

1800 yards?? Seriously?? He had broken ribs last year and he had 3000 yards. That's the most retarded prediction of a starting quarterback's stats i've ever seen.

So wait, it's retarded to have opinions now? My prediction was after 9 games he wasn't going to play anymore so the bench could get the time they should get. 9 games, 200 yards a game. Chances are he won't be able to make it through all 9 of those.

when he finds the opportunity time and time again to make the same "point" about the same player, whether it has anything to do with the topic of the OP or not.

My take on tonite's game: We only have one CB. JP Losman is not an NFL winning QB, so why keep him and not a developing rookie that gets cut? Dexter Davis made the squad. Branch and Housh should be shipped elsewhere or cut outright. The young guns did adequate and need the time to develope. Hasselbeck is the teams best QB by far, and Charlie as well as the young receivers will advance more quickly with him throwing them balls rather than Clipboard Jesus. Parks can return kicks. We don't have a lead blocker. Q: Why didn't Byers play center tonite? Where was Joe Toledo? He'll get cut. Did Pulumbus do enough? Chime in addicts!

i like the idea of building with young guys,(got to face the fact we are not a super bowl team yet, it's time to build) and i think the way williams is stepping up put housh in this position, whitehurst has possiblitiy i beleive, but he is definitely not ready yet, a year watching hassleback will be good for him, one thing i see for sure is the fact that these guys running the show know what they want and where they want to go with the team and making the needed steps to get there. you can't rebuild a damaged house over night, it takes time to make it strong, we all need patience right now!! enjoy watching these young guys come up together, it'll make winning the super bowl even more enjoyable!! GO HAWKS!!!!!!

I am not sure that Whitehurst is the answer, but the idea that sitting behind Hass will make him better is laughable. That is not the way it is being done in the NFL anymore. Most of the successful QB in the league now and over that past 10 years were starters by year 2, yes their teams faced some tough times while those young QB's learned and made big mistakes, but they are enjoying their successes now. The only way for Whitehurst to improve or to find out if he will improve is for him to play. Let's face it, the Hawks aren't going anywhere this year, they are building for a future SB run.

I'm not excited about another crappy year either, but that's the reality of the situation. You know darn well that PC knows this, but he also knows he can't say it because too many Hawk fans will cry about another bad season. You guys expect him to come in and in one off season rebuild one of the worst teams in football into a contender. Not very likely. If take the North West blinders off, you will see that EVERYONE else in the NFL picture, see our team as in a serious rebuild, maybe winning 5 or 6 games. You can get ticked at me all you want and give this post a negative mark, but deep down you know it's the truth.

I for one am excited at the changes, I don't want a team that has hopes of competing in the sorry NFC West,I have hopes that our team will come out of this rebuild better than ever, a team that will not only compete in our weak division but compete with the powerhouses in the NFL.

By week 10 as SGT said- we should let the bench play...when in any circumstance has that ever happened with any professional football team?? Besides, it's clear that Whitehurst is NOT ready. Seeing how he has everything he can handle against a #2 defense, what makes you think he can handle a #1 defense that actually GAME PLANS? Not these vanilla defenses that he's been seeing thus far. The pre season isn't anything like the regular season- anybody that knows anything about this game should know that. *should* key word here.

You just made my point. Whitehurst needs playing time to be ready, sitting behind Matt this year won't get it done. The only thing that will do is leave us after this year not knowing anything more about our QB situation than we do now. The bottom line is by the time we have a team that is really ready to compete Hass will be done (if he's not already), so it's time to look at the future.

Please don't label me as a Matt hater, I am not, I am just looking at this logically and realistically. We have no real hopes of playoffs much less championships this year. Nor do we have hopes that when the Hawks are truly competitive, next year or the year after more likely the year after that Matt will be the QB so the obvious choice is to look ahead.

Now obviously as a Hawk fan, I will pull for a win every game, and if Matt is the starter I will hope he performs well, hoping for those and being realistic about our needs for the future are not mutually exclusive.

I'm really starting to get the feeling that they are making moves just for the sake of making moves.

This isn't out of of sentimentality for Wilson or Housh or anybody else, but you have to look at the timing here. You go through the whole offseason, the minicamps, training camp, preseason games, and THEN you make these decisions on some of your important veteran players? Whatever else you think of Housh, he's the receiver Hasselbeck is most comfortable with. They've committed to the season with Hasselbeck as the starting QB -- I think -- so it would really make sense to figure out early on where you stand with the vets whose skill sets and personalities are already well known. And please, nobody give me a bunch of hooey about how they had to evaluate Housh for six months before they came to a decision. Everybody in the world knows exactly who he is, what his capabilities are, what his personality is, and how much money he's making. This isn't figuring out who the fifth and sixth WRs on your roster are going to be, this is a decision you make in March, not September.

If they're rebuilding then, dammit, rebuild. Don't fart around with your key veterans for six months and then decide you'll sell them off for low round draft choices a week before the season starts. All I can say is that I hope two years from now the next generation of Seahawks is in place, that decisions going forward will be made in a more timely fashion, and trades will be value for value and carefully considered.

I was very pleased on draft day, not only with the picks but with the value trades they made, but this week has been a bummer.

Housh for linemen and a running game? I'll take it.

Housh for VJax plus baggage? Not so sure. 7 million reasons to make the trade, though, which would pay a couple of good Oline and at least one decently beasty RB.

No they did not need all this time to figure out who housh and Wilson were. They needed all this time to figure out who (abumanu, Williams, Tate, and Butler are at WR and if they could play with the pros. And they needed to figure out who Thurmund and Lewis are at CB to see if they could be at all what they thought out of college.

Trading Housh is fine, but not for Vjax. kid is over rated. We don't need some jackass who had a few good seasons handed to him for being in the right situation. He has 2 dui's and he's trying to hold out for top dollar in the midst of it. The Chargers know how rediculous it is, and they won't give him one inch. It's time to stop giving SD too much for players they don't even want on their team. Trade Housh for picks, or to Buffalo for Lynch. Or keep him, I don't care, just not V-Jax. Alot of shit talk about Hass not having a big arm anymore and everybody's all excited to get rid of a good possession reciever. Doesn't make sense to me

"They needed all this time to figure out who (abumanu, Williams, Tate, and Butler are"

Not really. Tate and Butler were virtual guarantees to make the team regardless, and Obomanu will make it primarily for special teams. Williams was the only mystery, and even with his great progress you'd be a fool to put all your eggs in his basket given his history. WR is actually the position with the least amount of mystery involved, with the exception of Williams we've known where the team stands there since draft day.

Again, if Housh is standing in the way of the development of the younger receivers then you make this move months ago, before he has spent minicamps and training camp and preseason games building a rapport with your starting quarterback. Waiting until September 1 is just boneheaded.

Wow. Last season everyone was all about bringing in someone who would clean house. Now everyone's bitchin' about the moves being made or about to be made before we even see how it will work out in the regular season. Some of you guys should be extra careful what you wish for and then when it comes true, ride the new mule for awhile before complaining that it was a horse you really wanted all along.

The offensive line was atrocious last year. Put a mediocre QB behind a good o-line and you have 2008 Matt Cassel. Matt is a good QB and our o-line is at least mediocre this year, bordering on good. I'll take even money that Hass throws for 4000 yards this year.

"1st of all, stop hating on Hass. Now that we're putting an offensive line together he'll easily put up 4000 yards and 25 tds"

What are you smoking, Hass has never reached 4000yds or thrown 30tds even in his prime with Walter and Hutch protecting him. Now 25 tds on the other hand is doable with career proof that it's all his talent level can achieve.

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