Kerney Ready to Repeat 2007 Season?

The problem is, with this being an uncapped year, now would be a good time to take the cap hit for dropping him...as there is no cap.

Puuuuuhlease. The Seahawks need to cut bait with Kerney, Branch, Trufant, and Grant. They are dead weight dragging down the rest of the franchise and their bloated salaries a tribute to Ruskell's incompetence.

Puuuuuhlease. The Seahawks need to cut bait with Kerney, Branch, Trufant, and Grant. They are dead weight dragging down the rest of the franchise and their bloated salaries a tribute to Ruskell's incompetence.

Wow, don't you think maybe we should let coach Carroll, coach Bates, coach Bradley, and GM Schneider decide whether Kerney, Branch, Trufant, and Grant should be cut, retained, re-negotiated with, given a shot to make the team, or traded and whether their "bloated salaries" are really a tribute to Ruskell's incompetence. As I recall, the Trufant deal in particular was considered a very good one and below what was considered market value. Grant has played well since acquired. Kerney and Branch have had injuries and probably haven't earned their salaries but not for lack of talent. Kerney tore it up in 2007 but has been injured since.

I thought we wanted some fresh eyes looking at the big picture anyway and then deciding who fits what Carroll wants to do and who doesn't. I think you might find some players who have been maligned and criticized in the past will win favor with the new coach who might recognize how to utilize their talents in ways Mora and even Holmgren never dreamed of (or at least couldn't figure out). Alternatively, I think there will be a couple of surprise cuts or trades too where a fan favorite or two gets moved out of the program due to not fitting into Carroll's plans.

I get the distinct impression by the things Carroll did say before becoming sequestered at the VMAC with silence surrounding the facility that Carroll knows exactly what he intends to implement and what kind of player will fit into those plans. What he's looking for in a player might be found in some of these Seahawk players everyone wants to discard on the trash heap just because Mora and Knapp couldn't get them to perform for them or more likely couldn't take advantage of their talents.

Remember that we have more holes to fill than we have draft choices to patch them with and free agency this year is beginning to look as if it will be slim pickings with the new rules almost surely to take effect as the uncapped year is looming in a couple weeks. What would be the bad with Kerney for example becoming re-energized playing for Carroll and regaining his 2007 form? The 2007 Kerney would certainly fill the pass rusher we need so desperately quite nicely for a year or two until a good replacement can be found. It wouldn't be the first time a new coach lit a fire under a veteran player who had been under performing for a couple of years. It could be that Carroll would sure like to at least explore the possibility that that scenario could play out before just summarily cutting Kerney. Same with Trufant. Those two coming back and playing like they have in the past would allow the Seahawks to focus more on the offense in the draft and not have to try and plug so many holes all in one year.

Well said! I totally agree. Coaching absolutely sucked last season! We have the talent on this team. The talent needs the right coaching staff to lead them to play to their skill level. Pete Carroll and company will definitely do this and more. I appreciate Mr. Carroll for giving Mr. Bradley and Mr. Quinn second chances. GO Seahawks!

That was well thought out and written Bill. I for one am looking forward to this season, with a well paid staff that has a lot of potential. I am very interested to see on what this staff can do with all this talent, and put together a winning season again. I realize that there are some holes to fill between the draft and FA. I am staying optimistic for this season, and think we can make some serious waves in the NFL. On paper I think we have a good team (if we can fill a few holes) that can win this division with the right coaching and motivation.

Coaching and motivation goes a long ways.

Kerney is 33 and has been in the league 10 years. He is past his prime and has been injured in 3 of his last four seasons. He is not worth his salary, so either restructure his contract or cut him (no cap hit if it's an uncapped year).

As reported elsewhere, he held a retirement party, but probably changed his tune when he was made aware that if he chose to leave voluntarily, he'd have to return his $5 Million signing bonus. So pretending he wants to keep playing and letting the team cut him will save him from writing a very big check. His agent probably fell out of his rocker when he heard the retirement talk. Oops!

You can't squeeze production out of an injured player. The new staff will need to evaluate if our veteran core of IR professionals are worth their value in projected play time. Long term, it could be a better business decision to cut and sign special teams players from around the league w/ less talent. There is more potential in a young player w/ no injury track record who can contribute to special teams and 3rd, 4th string positions on a depth starved team, than there is with injury pron players with lofty salaries and low production results.

Maybe he's talking about his sex life.

Most likely he'd turn in a C- performance with a high probability of injury in 2010.

Is there a place on the D for an aging somewhat below par defensive end? There's a restructure on the horizon for PK if he wants to stay a Seahawk.

Just my guess, no proof or anything.

I think Kerney did roids before 2007 season and by saying he is in great shape I think he decided to roids again this offseason. I am guessing 5-10 percent of the players in the NFL do roids so that would mean 2-5 players on the Hawks. For some reason I have always thought that Kerney was a Juice Master.


Just my thoughts. No proof.

Here's hoping for a miracle

How long does Kerney have on his contract? It's un-capped right now so what would stop us from keeping him and seeing what he has. Paul Allen has the money. If he does not perform cut him before there is a new CBA, even if it is mid season. We have a lot of DE's on our roster but Kerney is the only one that we know is capable of putting up a huge year because he's done it before. Why not give him another chance while healthy? If he sucks or gets hurt again then cut him loose.

Why would we cut our best corner. The only reason would be if he can't run fast enough any more after his injury. I think that he'll bounce back this year.

Branch reportedly wants to play for the bears!
good riddens.

http://www.nextseasonsports.com/2010/02/seahawks-branch-wants-bears.html

This year if uncapped will make even Jennings a star free agent let alone Trufant. With three franchise tags per team, no cap considerations, and the added restrictions on free agents brought on by the potential uncapped year, the free agent pool is going to be almost zilch. Guys like Trufant, Grant, Kerney, etc. could immediately become the top free agents available.

Would you rather have 5' 9" Jennings who is fast and does have some quality NFL experience or the best undrafted 5' 6" free agent corner available who spent the last 4 years sitting on the bench backing up the backup on his college team and runs a 5.2 40 along with the linemen playing the nickle?

Seriously, if you were to cut starters Grant, Trufant, Kerney, and your 3rd receiver Branch, you just created four additional holes that have to be filled and there's likely to be no free agents available (except those we would be stupid enough to cut loose without replacements readily available in this scenario).

Most likely, we can fix three positions with our first three picks. You're not going to find any NFL starter replacements in round 4 - 7 and it just gets worse from there with the undrafted free agents. We don't have a real left tackle on the roster or a third cornerback to play nickle except Jennings. If we got rid of Trufant and Grant we'd be down to one cornerback, and two safties (one being an aged veteran and the other still not proven).

This year, I'm afraid we need to keep most of our players because there aren't any replacements out there and we have holes that need filling before we start trying to upgrade talent. Sims, Spencer, maybe JJ, Trufant, Grant, maybe Kerney, Milloy, Wrotto, Williams, Vallos, Locklear, Willis, maybe Redding, maybe Cole, maybe Jennings, hell, maybe even Branch at a reduced salary if we don't have any other WR options and others people want to dump are going to all be potentially valuable players to Seattle if there aren't any alternatives that make any kind of sense available as replacements. Over time Carroll will weed out any malcontents and those wo don't want to do the buy in but not this first year with free agency seemingly so restricted and only 3 real chances to get new talent who might be able to start.

If Kerney shows a resurgence, would you rather have him back in 2007 form (or close) for $5.5 million or join the bidding war for Kearse and pay $22 million for about the same production (assuming that Kerney returns to form) and still just have a stop gap solution to the pass rush situation to be resolved in the near future.

I think we need to know first what Pete Carroll and Co. think we currently have here in Seattle. Carroll needs to get this team out on the field for the OTA's and wait until he gets a firsthand look at who we have and then make his assumptions based on hands on evaluations. Gibbs should have the chance to meet all of our offensive linemen and watch them practice and then make his own evaluations. There are many stories throughout the history of the NFL where players getting a new chance in a new system and do amazing things. Jeez, Sam Adams was a above average DT for us but never made the pro bowl until going to the Ravens where he became a beast and pro bowler in that environment. This is going to be a brand new environment.

Pete Carroll is a guy who wants players to buy into his way of doing things. I got the impression that any player who does that will get a chance to show what they can do at the very least. Until they get out on the field and start working, who knows which players are going to drink the koolaid, get a new attitude, work their ass off in the offseason, and turn their career around and which ones won't. I think I'd want to know the answer to that question before discarding players who might have become valuable to me.

That's especially true for veterans like Trufant, Grant, Kerney, and Branch. Having starting veterans and former pro bowl players like them vested in the new plan and helping provide leadership and examples to the younger players to help them make a good decision on whether to buy in or not is a valuable resource to a new coach.

I just don't see Carroll not taking a good look at what he inherited. I'm sure he's well informed on the ramifications of new rules and potential lack of players in free agency. I doubt he's going to axe anyone until it becomes clear whether he can find replacements or if any trades can be made. Those who advocate wholesale changes just aren't thinking things through.

Wow Billt!

Pretty excellent writing, especially on your first comment. Write logical, well thought out pieces like that and post them!

I dont understand the angst about Grant. He has done fine playing out of his natural position at SS, and isnt making all that much money. Like Milloy, he brings attitude and leadership, only he still has decent speed--and Milloy is molasses slow.

Kerney will HAVE to take a paycut to stay, thats all there is to it. And it makes sense to keep him around thru camp no matter what--but unless he looks awesome, he isnt going to earn his huge salary. And yeah, I get your point about Kearse--no one is worth 22 million a year, certainly not an aging pass rush specialist who takes whole games off for no reason.

Branch is a real conundrum. If he takes less money, maybe he's worth keeping. But he still seems to think he's a top WR in the league--something he's never been, not even during his MVP performance in the Super Bowl. And I dont think anyone will trade for him. If we want to trade him, we have to keep him one more year, restructure his contract, and showcase him in games. IF he gets about 800 yards and looks fast (which I doubt) all year, THEN someone might trade a fourth round pick for him. But not now.

Dumping Tru?! GIve me a break! Half his penalties were total horseshit, he's still the best DB on our team by far.

Jennings needs to be cut. That guy just cannot perform regularly. And he really is over 5'-10", believe it or not. He's just about 168 lbs soaking wet, which is the problem. He just isnt physically powerful enough to do any damage. Especially not against the Cardinals stable of big tall fast WR's (I think they have 5 guys over 6;-1" tall).

Unless we can trade for something we like better, it makes sense to keep all these players at least thru camp to see who shakes out as the best player. And if spots get tight on the roster, some vets might lose out to younger guys who cost less and have potential. Aint that how its supposed to be?!

STTBM,

That's exactly how it's supposed to work in a normal year and even doubly so in the strange environment we might find ourselves in this year if the cap evaporates and all these new rules lock into place.

We've got the additional situation where new leadership is meeting the old workforce for the first time and to me it all screams caution and the necessity of proceeding slowly without making any rash decisions until the big picture comes into focus and we're sure we understand the ramifications of any choices we might make.

It just caught my attention that some fans are advocating whacking away part of the team and starters to boot without any plan for replacement like the fairy godmother will leave us a starting CB, S, DE, and WR as replacements under Carroll's pillow the next night. You know how I get.

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