| 13 January 2010
These reports are continuing to pour out of the cracks, and thanks to reader RecordBlender, we've got another one coming in.
A fellow named Eric Balkman at CraftyBalky Sports Blog says he keeps hearing locker room rumors that Brandon Marshall is all but on his way to becoming a Seahawk, and that the Hawks would deal Deion Branch back to Josh McDaniels to the Denver Broncos in exchange. Obviously, the Hawks would almost certainly have to throw something else in to equal Marshall's value, and what that might be remains to be seen. (But from what it sounds like over the past season in Denver, the Broncos might take Branch and a $100 Starbucks gift card just to get Marshall somewhere else.)
And sure, there's been plenty of negativity surrounding Marshall and his "embattled" behavior, namely at the beginning of this season. But if Pete Carroll can seemingly get through to inner-city gang members in Los Angeles, maybe he can work his magic on Marshall. It's just a thought.
This situation also comes with a massively catastrophic downside, of course. TJ Houshmandzadeh proved that his ego can barely fit inside the front door of the VMAC this season, and he really didn't do a whole lot to back up the "give me the ball" attitude. Granted, the offensive line couldn't protect Hasselbeck long enough for him to even pull a Seneca-style frantic backwards run for a 10-yard loss, but the offseason should change that. It really should. If the offensive line isn't seriously repaired and re-organized in the next few months, the 12th Man has a right to mutiny. You heard it here first.
Anyway, I digress. The prospect of Brandon Marshall in a Seahawk uniform makes me all giddy inside, so long as we can keep Denver's first-round pick and Marshall doesn't try to punch Pete Carroll in the face during training camp. Is that too much to ask?!
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written by hawksnest116, January 13, 2010
written by hawksnest116, January 13, 2010
I love the idea of young big play reciver on our team. I hate the idea that its Branden Marshal. If it were a guy like M. Colston I would be happy. But I would love to havet his guy only if we give up our 2nd Round pick and Deon Branch. I will even though in a Jim Mora signed hat.
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written by hawksnest116, January 13, 2010
written by hawksnest116, January 13, 2010
Note to self. Please proof read your crap so you dont look like your from Arkansas. Sorry Yall lol.
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written by Riggle, January 13, 2010
written by Riggle, January 13, 2010
"the Broncos might take Branch and a $100 Starbucks gift card"
Classic line.
I hope it happens, as long as the guy can be tamed.
Classic line.
I hope it happens, as long as the guy can be tamed.
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written by seatowntp, January 13, 2010
written by seatowntp, January 13, 2010
I recognize that Brandon has upper echelon talent, but the disruption that is associated with him seems like too high a price. Furthermore, WR does not seem like the highest priority need to address (unless Nate is gone). How about OL, RB, DL, Safety (and a non-elf DB)?
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written by Hawkdude, January 13, 2010
written by Hawkdude, January 13, 2010
Marshall is a stud. How about Branch, Seneca, and a 4th rounder for Marshall? We need our 2 first rounders and our second to rebuild our trenches - both sides. I sure hope we don't pick a QB with one of our first rounders. I'm not excited about Claussen nor am I interested in Bradford. Lets wait for Locker....
We have a good QB for now who probably has a couple of years left in him. Get some protection around him. Maybe even trade for a guy like Derek Anderson to back him up - who knows, he might even turn out to be the guy. He wsn't so bad a couple of years ago and from what I saw, he's got potential. In the right scheme and with some good coaching, I think this guy could be something special. His stock is low right now, so perhaps we can get him for cheap?
We have a good QB for now who probably has a couple of years left in him. Get some protection around him. Maybe even trade for a guy like Derek Anderson to back him up - who knows, he might even turn out to be the guy. He wsn't so bad a couple of years ago and from what I saw, he's got potential. In the right scheme and with some good coaching, I think this guy could be something special. His stock is low right now, so perhaps we can get him for cheap?
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written by hurbynhawk, January 13, 2010
written by hurbynhawk, January 13, 2010
I would kill to have Marshall on this team. Everyone benefits from having such a big play threat. TJ, Matt, Forsett/Jones (in THAT order), Butler may be able to make something of his deep routes. He is also a complete d-bag. But hell, if he could just keep his hands away from abusing his women and onto passes from Matt, we could be a very, VERY dangerous team. Upper echelon talent doesnt cover it. Marshall has HOF written all over him. One of the few cases in which a bad attitude is actually eclipsed by absurd talent. Think T.O. back in the good ol' days. And I agree, what if Carroll is the guy that can reach him. We already know via Housh on SportsCenter that Marshall is fond of and comfortable with Bates. If this happens, this will possibly have been the most dramatic offseason in team history. I hope whatever changes are made translate into wins next year.
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written by Seahawk Addicts, January 13, 2010
written by Seahawk Addicts, January 13, 2010
Whoa whoa whoa...
Written by the "sports editor of... the campus newspaper of University of Wisconsin-Oshkosh." This is not a reliable source for anything, let alone Denver Broncos locker room news.
We'll see how the new regime looks at Brandon Marshall, but lets not get ahead of ourselves. The only "rumor" is that Brandon Marshall's old playcaller is now our new playcaller, and it seems like Denver wants to trade him.
Considering what they got for their last overrated player (two firsts, starting QB, and then some), not certain we'd be willing or wise to cover the costs for a legit talent who is a complete and total headcase. I'm not saying it won't happen, and I'm not saying he isn't a very talented WR, but there are probably a dozen teams out there who would kill for him.
Written by the "sports editor of... the campus newspaper of University of Wisconsin-Oshkosh." This is not a reliable source for anything, let alone Denver Broncos locker room news.
We'll see how the new regime looks at Brandon Marshall, but lets not get ahead of ourselves. The only "rumor" is that Brandon Marshall's old playcaller is now our new playcaller, and it seems like Denver wants to trade him.
Considering what they got for their last overrated player (two firsts, starting QB, and then some), not certain we'd be willing or wise to cover the costs for a legit talent who is a complete and total headcase. I'm not saying it won't happen, and I'm not saying he isn't a very talented WR, but there are probably a dozen teams out there who would kill for him.
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written by Seahawk Addicts, January 13, 2010
written by Seahawk Addicts, January 13, 2010
Also, McDaniels isn't stupid (despite what I'd like to believe). He is a great talent evaluator and knows what fits his system (
umervil, Buckhalter, Orton, etc). To believe that Deion Branch would be a significant part of a trade just doesn't make sense. Even if he does have talent, he is not perceived to by just about anyone. The price for Marshall would be at least a first, probably more. The idea that we could just unload our dead weight and get a superstar is a fan's dream. We traded dead weight last year (Peterson) and got about the same in return (Redding).
Again, I'm not saying this couldn't happen, but the price would be huge.
umervil, Buckhalter, Orton, etc). To believe that Deion Branch would be a significant part of a trade just doesn't make sense. Even if he does have talent, he is not perceived to by just about anyone. The price for Marshall would be at least a first, probably more. The idea that we could just unload our dead weight and get a superstar is a fan's dream. We traded dead weight last year (Peterson) and got about the same in return (Redding). Again, I'm not saying this couldn't happen, but the price would be huge.
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written by kurtthekraut, January 13, 2010
written by kurtthekraut, January 13, 2010
Only when I see it,....if this was to happen,..it would be quickly followed by a rainstorm of frogs. I just dont see it.
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written by MattPeaty, January 13, 2010
written by MattPeaty, January 13, 2010
Jeremny Bates coached Marshall in Denver for two years also so don't forget about that. But I agree, how do we know anything about this source. I wanna believe it and it makes sense given the new coach in Carroll wanting to make a splash, Bates having a history, McDaniels has a history with Branch in NE, and they obviously want to move Branch.
That being said it almost makes too much sense, especially given that we would probably be trading their OWN pick right back to them. I would still do the deal, but dang I hope this legs to it.
That being said it almost makes too much sense, especially given that we would probably be trading their OWN pick right back to them. I would still do the deal, but dang I hope this legs to it.
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written by brizzle1986, January 13, 2010
written by brizzle1986, January 13, 2010
Moss went for a 4th rounder, so maybe branch and a 4th??? too good to be true tho
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written by Recordblender, January 13, 2010
written by Recordblender, January 13, 2010
I will say a few reasons why it could be possible, and he could be brought in for pennies on the dollar. (As far as trading wise anyways!)
1. Brandon Marshall and Elvis Dumervil are free agents.
2. If you were Josh Mcdaniels who would you franchise? The sack leader of the league in Elvis Dumervil or a wide reciever you have had problems with who is talented but a total pain in your neck. This is a no brainer....Dumervil.
3. If you had the choice of getting nothing for Brandon Marshall or trading him away to get a former Super Bowl MVP who was successful in your system and a 4th round pick before he hits the free agent market, which would you do?
4. If you were Brandon Marshall and liked the system you were once in, wouldn't you be interested in playing for your old OC?
All I'm saying is if the shoe fits...it may be possible. That's not to say that a team like Chicago won't be interested as well. However, I think they would be a little more cuatious considering they already used a first for a quarterback that hasn't done much for them.
1. Brandon Marshall and Elvis Dumervil are free agents.
2. If you were Josh Mcdaniels who would you franchise? The sack leader of the league in Elvis Dumervil or a wide reciever you have had problems with who is talented but a total pain in your neck. This is a no brainer....Dumervil.
3. If you had the choice of getting nothing for Brandon Marshall or trading him away to get a former Super Bowl MVP who was successful in your system and a 4th round pick before he hits the free agent market, which would you do?
4. If you were Brandon Marshall and liked the system you were once in, wouldn't you be interested in playing for your old OC?
All I'm saying is if the shoe fits...it may be possible. That's not to say that a team like Chicago won't be interested as well. However, I think they would be a little more cuatious considering they already used a first for a quarterback that hasn't done much for them.
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written by MattPeaty, January 13, 2010
written by MattPeaty, January 13, 2010
This was posted yesterday on the 12th and not one other source has anything on it. As much as I want to believe it, I'm calling B.S.
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written by Mr Fish, January 13, 2010
(1) Shouldn't we get a GM on board before we start making deals like this? Or is this an admission that it's just a figurehead position after all?
(2) Whether I'd be revolted by this deal depends on what price we would have to pay for a known malcontent like Marshall. Me, I'd give them Branch and Kelly Jennings, but only because I'm feeling generous.
(3) So now we think Hasselbeck has the arm to get the ball deep to Marshall?
written by Mr Fish, January 13, 2010
(1) Shouldn't we get a GM on board before we start making deals like this? Or is this an admission that it's just a figurehead position after all?
(2) Whether I'd be revolted by this deal depends on what price we would have to pay for a known malcontent like Marshall. Me, I'd give them Branch and Kelly Jennings, but only because I'm feeling generous.
(3) So now we think Hasselbeck has the arm to get the ball deep to Marshall?
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written by MattPeaty, January 13, 2010
written by MattPeaty, January 13, 2010
Wait wait wait, so Marshall is a Free Agent then how do you trade him unless you're able to sign Dummerville, thus allowing them to franchise Marshall. You can't trade a guy who is a FA unless you franchise him and I think the Broncos value Dummerville more than Marshall.
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It seems everyone is starting to report it.
written by Farmer Paul, January 13, 2010
written by Farmer Paul, January 13, 2010
Mike Sando, the Bleacher report, etc. I have been doing some thinking about Brandon Marshal. I didn't realize how big this guy is. Even though the issues are a concern to me, the fact that this guy is a "big" wide receiver sparks my interest. This guy is a whopping 6'4 230lbs! Much bigger than Larry Fitzgerald and can play ball(me likey). Now, I do have some issues with his character, but...(taking deep breath), it's possible Pete Carroll can help him. So, I will be all for it if this is the case.
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written by Recordblender, January 13, 2010
written by Recordblender, January 13, 2010
I believe you can trade him after the season but before the Franchise and free agency deadline. Now if they do get a long term deal done with Dumervil, that does pose some bigger problems, absolutely.
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written by Mr Fish, January 13, 2010
written by Mr Fish, January 13, 2010
Yeah, "wait wait wait" and "whoa whoa whoa" indeed.
This has to be the flimsiest of rumors. Even flimsier than the ones about Norm Chow and DeWayne Walker joining Carroll's staff.
But isn't it interesting that people in other parts of the country are spreading rumors about the Seahawks now?
This has to be the flimsiest of rumors. Even flimsier than the ones about Norm Chow and DeWayne Walker joining Carroll's staff.
But isn't it interesting that people in other parts of the country are spreading rumors about the Seahawks now?
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written by MattPeaty, January 13, 2010
written by MattPeaty, January 13, 2010
Hahah yes it is interesting, but tomorrow morning this rumor will be 2 days old. I would love Branch and I think it makes sense, but I maintain the point that I don't think you can trade guys who are set to be Free Agents unless you franchise them.
My point is that the Broncos want Dummerville back, he had a huge year and a contract could be difficult meaning he most likely gets the Tag.
If he gets the tag, then the Broncos can't tag Marshall (unless the the expiration of the CBA goes into effect in which case teams would have 2) They then could franchise both. It should be interesting to see what happens.
My point is that the Broncos want Dummerville back, he had a huge year and a contract could be difficult meaning he most likely gets the Tag.
If he gets the tag, then the Broncos can't tag Marshall (unless the the expiration of the CBA goes into effect in which case teams would have 2) They then could franchise both. It should be interesting to see what happens.
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written by pwhit44, January 13, 2010
written by pwhit44, January 13, 2010
Where is Sando reporting it??? I don't see it on his blog.
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written by scottM, January 13, 2010
written by scottM, January 13, 2010
If this deal is just for Branch and a 4th rounder MAYBE
The bottom line is we still have to negotiate with him, and he has HUGE personality Issues
We need ALL of our early picks, remember we do not have a 3rd round pick
The bottom line is we still have to negotiate with him, and he has HUGE personality Issues
We need ALL of our early picks, remember we do not have a 3rd round pick
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Sorry!
written by Farmer Paul, January 13, 2010
written by Farmer Paul, January 13, 2010
I should of wrote that Sando mentioned this earlier this month.
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written by MattPeaty, January 13, 2010
written by MattPeaty, January 13, 2010
Yeah neither Sando or Bleacher report nor "ect" are reporting this. I'm not sure why you would say something like that and send people on a wild goose chase.
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written by scottM, January 13, 2010
written by scottM, January 13, 2010
If Seattle wants him, they can purchase him Via Free Agency.....
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UGH!!
written by pwhit44, January 13, 2010
written by pwhit44, January 13, 2010
Dude, you said "everyone is starting to report it."
"Earlier this month" does not even fit into that statement, so...
"starting" implies now.
Haha! Whatever, no hard feelings. Just got me all freaked out for a couple minutes.
Cheers.
"Earlier this month" does not even fit into that statement, so...
"starting" implies now.
Haha! Whatever, no hard feelings. Just got me all freaked out for a couple minutes.
Cheers.
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Jerry Gray(Redskins) vs. Gus Bradley(Seahawks)
written by Farmer Paul, January 13, 2010
written by Farmer Paul, January 13, 2010
Having Jerry Gray might be the wise choice.
Total Defense:
Redskins ranked 10th in the entire NFL
Seahawks ranked 24th " "
Pass Defense:
Redskins ranked 8
Seahawks ranked 30
Rush Defense
Redskins ranked 16 with 1799yds allowed
Seahawks ranked 15 with 1776yds allowed
Total Defense:
Redskins ranked 10th in the entire NFL
Seahawks ranked 24th " "
Pass Defense:
Redskins ranked 8
Seahawks ranked 30
Rush Defense
Redskins ranked 16 with 1799yds allowed
Seahawks ranked 15 with 1776yds allowed
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written by Jeit3, January 13, 2010
written by Jeit3, January 13, 2010
MattPeaty, what even gives you an idea that the Broncs' would even think about franchising Marsh? He is going to be out the door very soon, they benched him for Denvers most important game of the season with playoffs on the line due to personality issues (over-exaggerated a hamstring injury cuz he didn't want to practice). This really ticked off Josh McDaniels which is why he benched him, and I am sure he had to ask owner Pat Bowlen's permission for the benching. By going this far to bench their star receiver on the most important game of the season it goes to show they have given up on him and they are NOT bringing him back and definetely will NOT be using the franchise tag on him to pay him $10 million for one year (franchise tag = average of top five paid receivers in the league).
Aside from all of this I wouldn't mind having Brandon Marshall on our team, he will no doubt be an explosive playmaker for this team, he makes plays happen which is exactly what we need on this team. I'm tired of this sissy team Ruskell build when even our own (former) coach Mora says he need dirtbags on this team to toughen us up.
Aside from all of this I wouldn't mind having Brandon Marshall on our team, he will no doubt be an explosive playmaker for this team, he makes plays happen which is exactly what we need on this team. I'm tired of this sissy team Ruskell build when even our own (former) coach Mora says he need dirtbags on this team to toughen us up.
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SORRY AGAIN!
written by Farmer Paul, January 13, 2010
I did not mean to send people on a wild goose chase. These are 10 days ago reports.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/318156-brandon-marshall-to-the-seahawks
written by Farmer Paul, January 13, 2010
I did not mean to send people on a wild goose chase. These are 10 days ago reports. http://bleacherreport.com/articles/318156-brandon-marshall-to-the-seahawks
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Brandon Marshall to Redskins?
written by Farmer Paul, January 14, 2010
written by Farmer Paul, January 14, 2010
The rumors are all over and not just with us.
http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Will-Brandon-Marshall-follow-Shanahan-to-DC.html
http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Will-Brandon-Marshall-follow-Shanahan-to-DC.html
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written by MattPeaty, January 14, 2010
written by MattPeaty, January 14, 2010
Jell3,
You franchise Marshall to ensure you can trade and get something of value for him. He may be a pain in the ass, but he is a commodity and you certainly don't give those away if you can help it.
They wouldn't franchise him with the intent to keep him, but rather franchise him so they can trade and get something, anything for him. Any draft pick is better than no draft pick and Marshall is a pro bowler. I would think Denver would want to get something back, but like I said he only gets franchised if the new CBA goes into effect this offseason allowing teams to have 2 tags. I believe Dummerville will get their franchise tag if they only have 1, which is why his contract status plays a huge role in what the Broncos decide to do with Marshall.
You franchise Marshall to ensure you can trade and get something of value for him. He may be a pain in the ass, but he is a commodity and you certainly don't give those away if you can help it.
They wouldn't franchise him with the intent to keep him, but rather franchise him so they can trade and get something, anything for him. Any draft pick is better than no draft pick and Marshall is a pro bowler. I would think Denver would want to get something back, but like I said he only gets franchised if the new CBA goes into effect this offseason allowing teams to have 2 tags. I believe Dummerville will get their franchise tag if they only have 1, which is why his contract status plays a huge role in what the Broncos decide to do with Marshall.
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written by MattPeaty, January 14, 2010
written by MattPeaty, January 14, 2010
However if Marshall hits FA I don't see the Hawks adding him because he would cost a ton of money and other teams like the Redskins who always insist on signing the highest profile guy they can find, will most likely offer him more money.
We added Housh last offseason and it's difficult to think that we would add Marshall unless Branch AND Burlesons contracts are moved.
We added Housh last offseason and it's difficult to think that we would add Marshall unless Branch AND Burlesons contracts are moved.
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written by TacomaHawk, January 14, 2010
written by TacomaHawk, January 14, 2010
Farmer!!! you sent me on a wild goose chase!!!
ha ha ha, just kidding, man. I remember Sando writing about this and figured it was some variation of his article.
That guy's been stirring up a lot of stinkies lately....
ha ha ha, just kidding, man. I remember Sando writing about this and figured it was some variation of his article.
That guy's been stirring up a lot of stinkies lately....
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puhleeeeeeeeeeeeze!
written by TheRealist, January 14, 2010
written by TheRealist, January 14, 2010
Marshall is arguably a top 5 WR talent in the NFL. He is really an incredible player. He had 21 catches in a game this year. Deion Branch is terrible and completely washed up. To suggest that Branch is even close to adequate compensation for Marshall is ludicrous.
Roy Williams was traded for a 1st and a 3rd round pick. I doubt there is anyone out there who thinks Roy Williams is better than Brandon Marshall. If we want Marshall, it will cost one of our first round picks absolutely. The Broncos are not going to just give away top tier talent.
Roy Williams was traded for a 1st and a 3rd round pick. I doubt there is anyone out there who thinks Roy Williams is better than Brandon Marshall. If we want Marshall, it will cost one of our first round picks absolutely. The Broncos are not going to just give away top tier talent.
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The Broncos
written by NCSeahawk, January 14, 2010
written by NCSeahawk, January 14, 2010
will NOT franchise Dumervill...as much as he had a good year, the going rate for Franchising a DE is around 16-18 mil per year...I can't imagine them thinking Dumervill is anywhere close to that valuable..Just sayin..
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written by MontanaMike, January 14, 2010
written by MontanaMike, January 14, 2010
"the Broncos might take Branch and a $100 Starbucks gift card." If they did go for it(Denver), Housh could go back to the #2 and we'd be great if we got protection for Matt. This reminds me of the Milton Bradley trade the M's just made, sometimes a change of scenery can do wonders for a players attitude, it might even help Branch.
PS i'd be willing to throw in the $20.00 gift card my aunt gave me last year, i'll never use it,EVER!
PS i'd be willing to throw in the $20.00 gift card my aunt gave me last year, i'll never use it,EVER!
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Marshall is a RESTRICTED FA
written by everetthawkfan, January 14, 2010
written by everetthawkfan, January 14, 2010
He is restricted not a free agent..They can put the high restricted tender on him to make it where it would be stupid to sign him cause you would be loseing a 1 st and a 3rd or somethin like that.Denver can make it hard for anyone to sign him.But maybe we can play McDaniels stupidity and get Marshall on the cheap somehow for Branch and a swap of picks maybe?
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written by WiiHawk, January 14, 2010
written by WiiHawk, January 14, 2010
"TJ Houshmandzadeh proved that his ego can barely fit inside the front door of the VMAC this season"
For the love of all that's holy, quit your crying about T.J. He's confident, he's not an egotist and his comments are no way harming this team. Fact is, he SHOULD get the ball more. We wasted his talent this year, and in the instances when he did mess up, he admitted it. He only called for the ball more when we were losing, because he felt he could've made a difference. He never called for it when we won.
God forbid a Seahawk player should actually believe he can make a difference...and want to.
For the love of all that's holy, quit your crying about T.J. He's confident, he's not an egotist and his comments are no way harming this team. Fact is, he SHOULD get the ball more. We wasted his talent this year, and in the instances when he did mess up, he admitted it. He only called for the ball more when we were losing, because he felt he could've made a difference. He never called for it when we won.
God forbid a Seahawk player should actually believe he can make a difference...and want to.
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written by CWEH, January 14, 2010
written by CWEH, January 14, 2010
1- This move would be unlikly, due to his FA status.
2- Move is not worth our 1st round or 2nd round picks. Unless, they want Dion and our 4th.
3- I see everyone talking about TJ.. so are we done with Nate B or is he moving to number 3 (which, I think he would be a star).
2- Move is not worth our 1st round or 2nd round picks. Unless, they want Dion and our 4th.
3- I see everyone talking about TJ.. so are we done with Nate B or is he moving to number 3 (which, I think he would be a star).
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written by S.TTBM, January 14, 2010
written by S.TTBM, January 14, 2010
Housh did his best playing opposite another pain in the ass talented WR--Chad Johnson. ANd while he didnt like playing in Chad's shadow, he did well.
Also, Housh has to be sick about this last year. Anything that might ease pressure on the qb and himself would have to be considered a good thing. Having Marshall on the team would mean many more opportunities for Housh, and less pressure from DB's. Who would ever double-cover Housh with Marshall on the opposite side?
The problem is Branch probably wouldnt even bring a fourth round pick. Even NE and Denver cant want him that bad, and despite what Branch said, I dont see him taking a pay cut to stay unless he hears neither Denver nor NE want him. Otherwise, I expect him to refuse a pay cut, get cut, then sign with either of those teams.
Marshall is a punk, but again, if we win and he likes Caroll, maybe it will work out. Marshall isnt Chad Johnson. Look at Randy Moss is NE--it took till now for him to start acting up.
I dont think Burleson has anything to do with this. If we can score a WR of Marshall talent--or even just someone slightly more consistent that Nate, his ass is either relegated to number 3 status (where he belongs) or unemployed.
Another concern is the huge ammount of money Marshall would want. Teams like the Redskins (with his old coach) and Bears (with his old qb) would just about sign a blank check to get him. How can Seattle compete with that without trashing the cap? Plus, Marshall is such a talent, whats to stop a bidding war caused by jealous teams ensuring whatever team gets him pays too much?
I say we only have a 15% chance of landing him. And thats supposing Caroll wants him.
Also, Housh has to be sick about this last year. Anything that might ease pressure on the qb and himself would have to be considered a good thing. Having Marshall on the team would mean many more opportunities for Housh, and less pressure from DB's. Who would ever double-cover Housh with Marshall on the opposite side?
The problem is Branch probably wouldnt even bring a fourth round pick. Even NE and Denver cant want him that bad, and despite what Branch said, I dont see him taking a pay cut to stay unless he hears neither Denver nor NE want him. Otherwise, I expect him to refuse a pay cut, get cut, then sign with either of those teams.
Marshall is a punk, but again, if we win and he likes Caroll, maybe it will work out. Marshall isnt Chad Johnson. Look at Randy Moss is NE--it took till now for him to start acting up.
I dont think Burleson has anything to do with this. If we can score a WR of Marshall talent--or even just someone slightly more consistent that Nate, his ass is either relegated to number 3 status (where he belongs) or unemployed.
Another concern is the huge ammount of money Marshall would want. Teams like the Redskins (with his old coach) and Bears (with his old qb) would just about sign a blank check to get him. How can Seattle compete with that without trashing the cap? Plus, Marshall is such a talent, whats to stop a bidding war caused by jealous teams ensuring whatever team gets him pays too much?
I say we only have a 15% chance of landing him. And thats supposing Caroll wants him.
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written by Steen, January 14, 2010
written by Steen, January 14, 2010
While getting anything of value for Branch sounds nice, Brandon Marshall doesnt fill our need for an X receiver. We need a true X receiver. Marshall's just a true headache.
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If the Broncos were to franchise him it would cost us two 1st rounders, NO WAY!! I would not waste even one of our first on a problem child, hasn't anyone learned from T.O.. Cancers destroy teams and no I do not think TJ is a cancer just alittle outspoken. Say whatever you want about Ruskell (I am even realizing that he is not that great) but at least he would stay away from a cancer like this.
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written by T.J., January 14, 2010
If you read the article carefully, Sando isn't reporting anyting, he is simply giving his opionion of places where Marshall's presence would make sense. I think that people are taking his article literally and giving it a life of its own. This is a big non-story if you ask me.
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written by tam, January 14, 2010
steen, i would agree that marshall is probably a headcase, and a potential malcontent. but to say that he is not a true X receiver is a falsehood. the man broke the single game reception record this year of 21, and i believe he had a game with 18 last year. i dont think our receivers combined had a game with 21 catches this year. he can catch deep and short passes. in my eyes, the kid a beast in the mold of andre johnson. also, if we are looking to trade branch for him, i dont see how this is a bad situation for us.
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written by Jayhawk., January 14, 2010
written by Jayhawk., January 14, 2010
Sounds good to me. As long as Marshall is treated with respect I don't see him having the same issues with us that he is having with Denver right now.
Denver created a monster in Marshall, but if you take him out of that environment I think many of his problems will be resolved.
Denver created a monster in Marshall, but if you take him out of that environment I think many of his problems will be resolved.
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written by Recordblender, January 14, 2010
written by Recordblender, January 14, 2010
Denver needs a quarterback. Don't be surprise if we swapped our 6 for pick 11, Branch and a 5th or 6th round pick for Marshall. That would be perfect for us too.
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written by Texashawk, January 14, 2010
written by Texashawk, January 14, 2010
Just remember that all of our wishful thinking will not make Marshall mature into a good person. It does not matter how much we want him to.
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written by MattPeaty, January 14, 2010
Everetthawk,
Marshall is not a Restricted Free Agent. His contract is up and will be able to test the market assuming he isn't tagged.
http://www.footballsfuture.com/2010/fa/wr.html
Marshall is not a Restricted Free Agent. His contract is up and will be able to test the market assuming he isn't tagged.
http://www.footballsfuture.com/2010/fa/wr.html
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written by Gonzo, January 14, 2010
written by Gonzo, January 14, 2010
WiiHawk --
I'm not complaining about TJ, but I'm saying he does have a big ego. Does it hurt this team? No. But did he back up the talk by walking the walk this year? No. And that's not his fault. I made sure to cite the fact that Matt had horrible protection and couldn't get the ball out more often than not this year.
Better pass protection + another deep threat = a respectable offense in the air for the Hawks.
I'm not complaining about TJ, but I'm saying he does have a big ego. Does it hurt this team? No. But did he back up the talk by walking the walk this year? No. And that's not his fault. I made sure to cite the fact that Matt had horrible protection and couldn't get the ball out more often than not this year.
Better pass protection + another deep threat = a respectable offense in the air for the Hawks.
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written by Bellevue, January 14, 2010
written by Bellevue, January 14, 2010
http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=4821431
TJ mentions he spoke to Marshall about new OC Jeremy Bates, and apparenly Marshall had only good things to say. A little foreshadowing? I hope so.
TJ mentions he spoke to Marshall about new OC Jeremy Bates, and apparenly Marshall had only good things to say. A little foreshadowing? I hope so.
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written by Stephan, January 14, 2010
Marshall will be a RFA based on the reports that there will not be a new CBA by next year.
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written by S.TTBM, January 14, 2010
written by S.TTBM, January 14, 2010
Right, because unless you have 6 years in the NFL, you automatically become a restricted free agent, instead of just a free agent, if there is no CBA in place and we have an uncapped year. This is to prevent the Jerry Jones' from spending 2 billion dollars and stealing every good free agent to make a Super Team and buy the championchip.
So yeah, it appears Marshall will be a restricted free agent. Costly to land him anyway you slice it, via trade or in free agency as he would cost draft picks aplenty.
So yeah, it appears Marshall will be a restricted free agent. Costly to land him anyway you slice it, via trade or in free agency as he would cost draft picks aplenty.
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written by omar little, January 14, 2010
written by omar little, January 14, 2010
Most of you forget that Marshall actually shut up and played once the season started. I mean I think any big name WR would be pissed if some young brash coach came in and traded away your young pro bowl QB. I would rather see us take a chance on Damian Williams or Dez Bryant in the first (if we go WR at all, which would be a bad move IMO) than trade away our future for Marshall.
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written by omar little, January 14, 2010
written by omar little, January 14, 2010
Wow that last post of mine was all over the place, my bad it was pretty undetailed.
I really don't see this happening with us, we just have too many needs (OT,OG,RB,CB,S,QB of the future)
I expect Marshall to land in Baltimore or maybe Miami. Both have young talented QBs who are starving for some help at reciver, and both seem to be set playoff contenders for several years so they can also afford to give up more than we can.
I really don't see this happening with us, we just have too many needs (OT,OG,RB,CB,S,QB of the future)
I expect Marshall to land in Baltimore or maybe Miami. Both have young talented QBs who are starving for some help at reciver, and both seem to be set playoff contenders for several years so they can also afford to give up more than we can.
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written by omar little, January 14, 2010
written by omar little, January 14, 2010
Also my 2 cents on Housh.
I love his swagger, its something this team has lacked in a long time. I'm glad to get some competitive spirit on this team, maybe if we had more guys like TJ and Matt we would have finished above .500. These two seem to be the only ones who care about winning I hate to say...
I love his swagger, its something this team has lacked in a long time. I'm glad to get some competitive spirit on this team, maybe if we had more guys like TJ and Matt we would have finished above .500. These two seem to be the only ones who care about winning I hate to say...
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written by elroy, January 14, 2010
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Record blender stated the idea of trading our 1st, Deon Branch, and a 6th for Denver's 1st and Brandon Marshall. The difference between the 6th pick and 11th pick is 350 points on the "traditional" nfl draft value chart. This is the equivalent of a lower 2nd round pick.
Deon Branch is worth nothing to me but hopefully the value him as a 4th round pick. We would basically be giving up a lower 2nd round pick and a 6th for Brandon Marshall.
Deon Branch is worth nothing to me but hopefully the value him as a 4th round pick. We would basically be giving up a lower 2nd round pick and a 6th for Brandon Marshall.
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