Seahawks Talking to Vincent Jackson

No Brainer............. Branch, Branch and a little more Branch

I don't think Coach Carroll likes Housh's behavior. He gets upset in practice when he doesn't get the ball enough. I think they are shopping Housh, if they find a suitor then they get serious about Vincent Jackson. If they don't find a taker for Housh they keep him and the Jackson deal dies.

I love the youth movement in the Hawks wide receiver corps right now, so if someone has to go for Jackson, make it Branch or Housh. I'd rather see both succeed here, but I definitely don't want them taking playing time away from Butler, Tate, or Williams.

I would hope Branch, but it's hard for me not to believe it would be Housh. He has more value in a trade and he doesn't seem to be fitting in with the new coaching staff. Branch on the other hand has very little trade value and Pete has been saying good things about him. Unless he's just been setting up a trade, it appears he wants him around.

I would be willing to part with Housh (understanding we would probably have to send some money to cover his salary) and a 4th to do this. If they would take Branch instead it would be a miracle. VJax is very talented but I don't know how much leverage San Diego has if he flat out refuses to play for them.

I say we trade Leroy Hill for V-Jax. Since Merriman looks like he's also on his way out, the Chargers are gonna need someone to come in there and beat up on Tila Tequila.

Ideally, I think that the Hawks should trade what the SD Union Tribune is reporting the demand is: a second round pick. But, if they can work out like a 2nd rounder in 2012 and Branch for VJack in return... pull the trigger now! Housh in the slot with VJack outside and Carlson from the TE spot will be money for whomever is throwing them passes; hell even Losman can do no wrong here! Imagine Butler, Tate, and Mike Williams as the 3,4, and 5 guys? Pretty good improvement over the recent groupings of Courtney Taylor, Jordan Kent, and Logan Payne, et al. I read on the SD Union Tribune today that his agents did ask the Hawks for in the neighborhood of 5 years, $30 mil in the bank, which is absurd and causing this to not be a done deal. I say angle for 4 years, $40 million (less than Marshall's overall), and $24 million guarantee (equal to Marshall's new deal in Miami). If the Hawks don't have to give up as much in a trade to get him as the Dolphins did for BM, and as has been reported, then we can overpay a bit provided we have "DUI or future suspension" clauses and we front load the contact for this uncapped year where Branch's salary off the books would help the cost some. Make it happen tonight or else the same thing will happen as we saw with BM!!!

Bye bye Housh. That's who i'd send off..I would say Branch- but nobody would want him anyways. :/

I guess my question is to wheter he is better than who we already have. Did he have a lot of catches because he is a special player, or perhaps more because SD didn't really have anybody else? So he was their main go to guy?
Housh is battle tested and ok, Branch is the same. I love all the kids, how about Obomanu? Or one of the tight ends?

Housh, hill and a fifth?

This clown get's a couple DUI's and he expects top money? The kid has good size/speed, but he doesn't deserve to make top dollar, and that's what he wants. He's suspended the first four games and it will be hard to get comfortable in our offense right away. Definitely not worth the money, we don't need a third overpaid reciever and I see Mike Williams as able to play the big man role. In my opinion Marshal is a top 5 recieving talent, I wouldn't rank Jackson in the top 20, these comparisons need to stop

My guess is that Housh is gone if they pick up Jackson.

He looks slow nowadays.

I dont think vjax has had a 100 catch season yet tho, he only broke 1000 yards cuz he had all deep passes.. And with hass likely at qb, his yards will drop, maybe 700 yards in a full season

it's not that housh isn't talented. he's just a lazy whiner who has become my least favorite seahawk. i sincerely hope in just about any scenario that ends with housh not playing for us this year.

it's tough on a fan when he can't stand one of the main players on his favorite team.

Leroy and Branch for VJac works for me. Housh will flourish with a guy like VJac on the team. Add in Carlson and our other receivers and we have a potent attack - finally! Now if the line can protect and our D can generate a pass rush, man, give me some cool aid!

I'm thinkin Housh and Hill in this deal. For some unknown reason I think Branch wiil have a good year. Tired of Housh and Hills antics. Don't wanna give up too high of a draft pick or picks. Too valuble when you see what Schneider and Carroll did in this years draft.

but I'd rather they go out and get a better quality starting RB, we look decent at WR already but not so much at RB. Marshawn Lynch maybe? Jackson is still a stud though, would love to see him as a Hawk.

Unless someone suddenly started being able to get open and catch bombs, Jackson would give a dimension we only hope to get from the current WR corps. He's like Andre Johnson on deep routes, but isn't at that level in the short passing game.

If Jackson comes, I think Housh would be the one most likely on the way out, since he'd likely complain about playing second fiddle. Isn't that why he wanted out of Cincy in the first place?

And if we move Housh, it would have to be to a third team. I can't see San Diego having much interest in Housh or Branch because they've already got Antonio Gates filling the short route niche in their offense. They ask their WRs to run deeper routes, so I can only see them interested in Butler or Tate. Butler's trade value is limited until he proves something, so the Seahawks are better off keeping him. Tate, well nobody here wants him traded, lol.

Another thing that acquiring Jackson might precipitate is a qb change. To fully utilize his skills, you have to throw deep a lot, which suggests taking our lumps and phasing out Hasselbeck sooner in favor of Whitehurst.

As long as we had the necessary clauses in there if he were to slip up again, I'd be fine with giving him a contract close to what Marshall signed, say 4 year 36 with 20 guaranteed. I don't think he's worth our second round pick though if it's straight up, they'd have to take Branch and give us a later pick if we're giving up a second, but that's just my opinion. The market isn't there and there's no draft next week, like it was when Marshall was looking for suitors. And agreed, that Marshall is by far the better player. Still V-Jax would be huge for a passing attack like ours and complement every other receiver that makes the rotation. He's also a great blocker down-field that could open up longer runs for our backfield. We'll see how much his agents budge the sooner it gets to his suspension being over. I'd be very surprised if anything materializes in the next few weeks.

Trade Branch and Hill for Jackson and trade Housh for a second round pick to anyone who wants who wants his slow ass.

i really don't think that he will replace anyone...maybe take a roster spot from Obamanu, but does that really matter? we will have a true #1 receiver in Jackson, then Housh, branch or tate, and then BMW.. Probably the best receiving corps that we have had in years..

oh and Butler as well..just forgot to write him in

I don't understand all the high cost (from Seattle) trades. Anquan Boldin + 5th was traded for a 3rd + 4th and he didn't have a pending suspension. Miami crassly overpaid for Brandon Marshall. Do not use this as a valid trade baseline! Fair to me would be Branch or TJ + 5th. Maybe 4th + 5th for Jackson + 5th.

While Branch hasn't lived up to expectations, he's been injured alot, which in itself is bad. Houshmandzadeh didn't perform up to expectations last year, but wasn't injured. TJ also has a much higher cost for 4 more years, Branch has only 2 years on his contract.

I too think we're not hearing enough good about TJ during camp. His attitude makes me wonder who the biggest mouth in Cin's locker room was.

I don't know why people are hating on Housh. He made a decision and came to a team that imploded last year. Obviously anyone of us would be frustrated. Who cares if he whines sometimes? If we win games and he plays well he can whine all he wants. Housh was our leading receiver last season. I would love to get Jackson, all I wanted was Brandon Marshall to sign but I would be almost as happy with Jackson and not giving up as much. Jackson, Housh, and Tate/ Butler...Pretty sick corp. All are young with the exception of Housh. Oh and Branch fell off the face of the earth a few years ago so I don't count him as a legit contender.

Housh and a 3rd would be sweet. Won't happen, but it'd be sweet.

bye Houshmandzadeh

Julius I suck Jones and a #2

Kev C,
Right there with ya, bro, just don't get the Housh haters...

Not Housh. Our quarterback is the problem, not the receivers. Housh and Branch were MVP's with their former elite QBs. The reason we never have any top NFL receivers is because elite quarterbacks are starmakers and Matt has never been at that level. It's a waste of time and money to upgrade the receiver corps any further until they get rid of or bench the slow, panic in the pocket, hesitant and predictable Hass.

I agree with many of you, and think Housh has to go. Not that I dont love the guy or think he doesnt produce, but Housh in my opninion acts like he is bigger than the team. We need everybody in if we are going to have our rebuilding team actually be a winning team. It would be good for both sides. Housh wants to win now, and so does the Hawks, but I feel Housh has the attitude that he will wait to play in the NFC championship game and then help to win it all, but is not willing to grind it out through a new coaching staff, maybe a .500 year, non-playoff team, without being a diva along the way before getting to that game. He has peaked out and Pete is all about getting younger, and we should get as much as possible for him before he flames out. Housh wins as he will be on a legit AFC West contender and the Hawks win, because we get a big young stud proven reciever.
I may sound crazy, but I say we keep Branch as long as it takes until we get one solid ass year from him. He already got the money, he isnt worth much, so why bother getting rid of him now? Its time to lick our wounds, and hope that he is like wine and only gets better in age and experience.

Hawksfan80,

Wow you have a short memory. Have you forgotten the video game numbers that D-Jax and Koren put up with Matt throwing them the ball? Or Bobby Engram?!? These were NOT marquee players, but they were hugely successful in Holmgren's system, and with Matt throwing to them.

I knew you wouldn't be able to pass up the opportunity for some good Hass bashing

Hasselbeck needs to be shipped out or traded for some type of value to a team like the Browns, I agree with Hawksfan80 that he is past his prime and declining more rapidly with the injuries that he's had the last two years. BestintheQwest, dude, that was like 5 years ago when he did that. Since 2007, he hasn't been the same since. JRock, it's about time we confess that Hass is Mr. Glory Days here in Seattle and gets a certain level of respect for what he's done. That is the point though, he is done! I'm tired of watching him throw the ball to the other team nerviously, choking on 3rd down, forcing the ball to Branch and getting picked, getting sacked for holding on to the ball to long, and laughing b/c I'm watching his old ass try to scramble and get lit up by defenders (Willis cracking his ribs). It's time to move on, he's no Brett Favre and is not getting better with age. He's embarrassing himself & the city of Seattle when he's on the field, especially on televised national games. Dude, he has 26 passing yards in the opener! 17 Tds & 17 Int last year! Kicks rocks Hass! Oh yeah, we should pick up Jackson...

That Hass should either improve this year or be let go next offseason by not renewing his contract. I could see him being a decent backup though, for Whitehurst! LOL

I think the deal breaker here will be the amount of money Jackson wants vs what the Chargers want in return.

I think he would be replacing whoever our sixth receiver if we would have kept six would have been.
Our receiving corp would then be Jackson, Housh, Williams, Branch, Tate, and Butler. I don't know how you don't use all of these guys, but we would hopefully let Branch out of any of these players go simply because of upside. Imagine a defense trying to defend against 5 receiver sets if we do pick him up

I don't want to see us part ways with draft picks, especially after seeing what PC and JS are capable of slinging the draft.

I guess logic is not a skill a number of you have in abundance. The very arguement for removing Housh is the reason Jackson is a #1 A**clown. This the same debate that was had for that guy that went to Miami. Jackson hasn't grown up and won't, so let pay an attitude problem lots of money and get screwed again. Have a little faith in the WR corp that has been assembled.

VJ can be paid any amount of money he wants the deal breaker is what to bolts want. Pete and John want to keep their draft picks. However; if they can work out a deal it should be Housh. or Butler or for VJ.Then they need to deal Hass. to anybody for a decent running back. I thought they could deal him to Buffalo for Lynch, but given a recent comment from PC it seems he isn't all that high on Lynch. Hass is healthy right now, they need to deal him now! Once he gets hurt his trade value will be "O".
Our biggest needs are running back and a speedy pass rushing DE. VJ would be a nice addition, but why not work a trade to take care of our biggest needs first?

I think the VJ story is just been re-hashed from earlier this year because they just put him on "ROSTER EXEMPT" status , San Diego (AJ Smith) is NEVER Gonna let a player win.



http://www.nctimes.com/sports/football/professional/nfl/chargers/article_8dd7312f-4897-51b4-b53f-e233966ecef9.html

We are already paying way too much at the WR posititon (Doushmanzadah and Deon Bitch) From a production standpoint I think the corps can be decent enough. Too many needs on this team to overpay for another Primma Donna WR.

Now you're writing your Hasshatred under another of your many aliasses, and then the best part is you'r'e agreeing with your own nonsense like anyone is fooled. "I agree with hawksfan80" lol - You have become an unfunny comedian with no imagination. What a foolish gaff you've become...

Please go back to your 49ers site and troll somewhere else...

well first to make sure my main point isnt thrown back in my face, lets talk about vincent jackson. obviously getting a legit #1 receiver is something the hawks need to do. but personally ive accepted the fact that were in rebuilding mode and to give away john schneiders and pete carrols picks seems incredibly stupid to me at this point. maybe in three years ill disagree with that statement but for now lets stay with the build the team for later thing. great teams build through the draft thats all there is to it. if you want to pay big money and high draft picks for established players every year, go be a redskins fan. dan snyders doing awsome for them. Now on to the non football related topic. Doug Hanson, I don't know what your and many other people on this site problem is with hawksfan80. I recently joined this site and on almost every article you and some other people bash on hawksfan80 for his opinion on Hasselbeck. I normally wouldn't care what the deal is but seeing as how any SEAHAWKS news i want to read about or any opinions on FOOTBALL and the SEAHAWKS in general is interspersed with some cool factoid about how hawksfan80 is a secret 49rs fan, it kind of puts it in my face. If hawksfan80 did something to you gentleman other then dislike a quarterback and state that dislike on an appropriate venue, then i apologize for even saying something. But if its just you bashing his opinion without a contrary opinion to back it up, it really has no place on a football blog and I (and I'm sure many others) would appreciate its removal from this site. Thank you very much and I hope I haven't offended or alienated any one by posting this. Go Seahawks.
Cole Ackley

Doug:
I happen to agree with HawksFan80 (even if he is a 49's plant). I've never liked Hasselback and never will. He is just not a "winner". Our one and only SB appearance loss was his inability to "put the final nail in the coffin". Yes, he has a winning record but does not have the intangible quality of an elite QB. Hasselback is "acceptable" but not "exceptional". I think what we want is exceptional and Hass is not ever going to give us that.

God I hope it would be Deion Branch. He has been less than average in his stint as a Seahawk.

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