| 21 September 2009
Matt Hasselbeck has a fractured rib, Jim Mora has confirmed it. Other injuries - High ankle sprains for Josh Wilson and Sean Locklear and a sprained MCL for Justin Griffith. Lofa went in but quickly realized he "just couldn't go." As for whether "Walter Jones will play, they will not sacrifice his longterm health for the length of the season because of what happened to Sean."
Will we look for more CB or tackle help? "We'll look at that this afternoon. Every tuesday we bring guys in for workouts just in case, at every position, where if we get ourselves in a pinch we can get those guys in the fold."
Status of Spencer and Mebane? "Spencer will, starting wednesday, practice full. Brandon, we still have to see; he was a gametime decision and just didn't quite have it. He worked today on the field and felt better, so we'll see where he is this week."
On Brandon Frye: "He wasn't noticeable, and [as an offensive lineman] that's the best thing they can say about you."
Frank Gore's runs: "Both simply gap control issues. First one we got washed down up front on a counter scheme, which opened a hole bigger than we'd like and we over ran it (Curry), got up on the safety quick and the safety didn't make a tackle (Babineaux). On the second one they did a zip lock, the end needs to come in forcefully and seal that gap but he didn't (Kerney) and again, the safety has got to make that tackle and he didn't (Babineaux)."
Will Spencer start if healthy? "That's a good question, I don't know. We are going to try to get the five best guys in there to help us win."
Will Branch be back this week? "Yes! He'll be practicing all week, he was very close this week and wanted to play, but we didn't feel he was ready.Why does the running game stink? "We're still learning it; we haven't perfected it. It's a slower start than we had wanted, but I'm not going to give up on it. I still believe in the scheme."
Did Forsett earn himself more touches? "He's a good player, he's fun to watch. He keeps fighting, we've always had confidence in him but when you perform like that you say 'Shoot, let's give that guy some touches.'"
Comments (28)
Babs
written by C-Hawk, September 21, 2009
written by C-Hawk, September 21, 2009
Is he now "Bad Play Babs"? Once was awful, but twice?!?!?
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Mental strength and focus
written by Papahawk, September 21, 2009
written by Papahawk, September 21, 2009
the 12th man cannot fall into the trench that is, "Here we go again" with injuries. Just can't do it. It doesn't help the team, the roar, or anything. There's a good chance that Hass will miss the game this week. There's a good chance that Kelly Jennings will be starting this Sunday. There's also a good chance that Tatupu will miss this week's game.
However- this is not 2008 all over again!
Why?
1) Charlie Frye is not a Seahawk. Brandon Frye is.
Seneca will start this week if Hass cannot go. Seneca gives the Hawks a chance to win.
2) Big Walt, Chris Spencer and Mebane all will be back soon. That will boost the team.
3) The injuries are more spread out this year. Last year they attacked positions to the point where guys who were bagging groceries were brought in to start games. Billy McMullen and Keary Colbert were introduced to the 12th man as starters! We are still a few injuries away from that.
4) Been there, done that. If anything last year's injuries have galvanized the players to be able to deal with this in a positive way. Mora and his staff will not give up.
My position of concern this week is CB. Odds are, unless Travis Fisher is ready to go, that we'll need to sign a corner to play. That person will get time in the nickel. You ideally do not want to slide Babs between DB positions. So its best to get Fisher healthy or we're staring Milloy.
However- this is not 2008 all over again!
Why?
1) Charlie Frye is not a Seahawk. Brandon Frye is.
Seneca will start this week if Hass cannot go. Seneca gives the Hawks a chance to win.
2) Big Walt, Chris Spencer and Mebane all will be back soon. That will boost the team.
3) The injuries are more spread out this year. Last year they attacked positions to the point where guys who were bagging groceries were brought in to start games. Billy McMullen and Keary Colbert were introduced to the 12th man as starters! We are still a few injuries away from that.
4) Been there, done that. If anything last year's injuries have galvanized the players to be able to deal with this in a positive way. Mora and his staff will not give up.
My position of concern this week is CB. Odds are, unless Travis Fisher is ready to go, that we'll need to sign a corner to play. That person will get time in the nickel. You ideally do not want to slide Babs between DB positions. So its best to get Fisher healthy or we're staring Milloy.
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written by nbuser, September 21, 2009
written by nbuser, September 21, 2009
Well we know that Wilson and Lock will miss some weeks, so hopefully we get Spencer, Walt, Mebane, Deion and Lofa back.. this is brutal! Hopefully Matt is back ASAP.
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written by AW, September 21, 2009
written by AW, September 21, 2009
You should probably be more concerned about the Oline. ouch
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written by anthawk, September 21, 2009
written by anthawk, September 21, 2009
Thank you C-Hawk. It's nice to see another fan with a more positive attitude. Especially since by nature us football fans are bipolar.
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Root for the Lions....
written by fuckstick, September 21, 2009
written by fuckstick, September 21, 2009
Because this season is over for the Hawks.
Last year the injuries were concentrated on the WR corp, Mostly, but this year they are spread out all over the field and our backups suck. Last year we supposedly had the solid defense with all 11 starters returning and we couldn't buy a 5th win, so I say Go Lions because the Hawks suck this year.
Last year the injuries were concentrated on the WR corp, Mostly, but this year they are spread out all over the field and our backups suck. Last year we supposedly had the solid defense with all 11 starters returning and we couldn't buy a 5th win, so I say Go Lions because the Hawks suck this year.
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written by shamus mcgee, September 21, 2009
written by shamus mcgee, September 21, 2009
I wouldn't be opposed to starting Milloy and usinb babs as a corner exclusively until wilson/trufant come back.... might be better for run defense anyway...
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written by BillT, September 21, 2009
written by BillT, September 21, 2009
Well. Well. Well. I remember getting just bashed on Seahawk Addicts to the point I stopped completely advocating that we needed to take a LT with our pick. I said then and still do think that Oher was the guy we needed. He's just playing great for the Ravens by the way. Better than Smith, Smith, and Monroe. I still say he'll be the best of the lot when it's all said and done. What I said over and over is that what if Locklear gets hurt or can't perform at LT? Then where are we going to be?
Well, I'm not happy that this concern has come to pass but correct me if I'm wrong. High ankle sprains are pretty much done for the season type injuries. That probably means Locklear and Wilson are gone until next year. How many of you still think that Walt can make it through this year? Until Trufant comes back we're looking at Jennings in his old role as a starting corner with Fisher as the nickle and no backup at this point. That's bad.
I have to admit that when Curry became available, that pretty much made it the mandatory pick and even though the boo birds already are criticizing Ruskell for picking Curry because he didn't just destroy Frisco single handedly (which is an absolute crock), I'm not sure that we wouldn't have been better trading up into the bottom of the first round and grabbing Oher than moving up in the second and picking Unger. Unger's going to be a fine player but do we need a center/guard worse than we need a left tackle? I thought that the Locklear experiement was a real reach back when the club announced it and I still think it was a bad decision to not go out and get a legitimate LT somewhere somehow.
Unlike a lot of you though, I'll admit that Ruskell and company know a lot more than I do about it and probably have legitimate reasons for the way they played it. I'll defer to their judgement because you can't fix all problems or have great backups at every position at your beck and call with only 53 players. I think we're in deep do do right now but it's not over yet.
Well, I'm not happy that this concern has come to pass but correct me if I'm wrong. High ankle sprains are pretty much done for the season type injuries. That probably means Locklear and Wilson are gone until next year. How many of you still think that Walt can make it through this year? Until Trufant comes back we're looking at Jennings in his old role as a starting corner with Fisher as the nickle and no backup at this point. That's bad.
I have to admit that when Curry became available, that pretty much made it the mandatory pick and even though the boo birds already are criticizing Ruskell for picking Curry because he didn't just destroy Frisco single handedly (which is an absolute crock), I'm not sure that we wouldn't have been better trading up into the bottom of the first round and grabbing Oher than moving up in the second and picking Unger. Unger's going to be a fine player but do we need a center/guard worse than we need a left tackle? I thought that the Locklear experiement was a real reach back when the club announced it and I still think it was a bad decision to not go out and get a legitimate LT somewhere somehow.
Unlike a lot of you though, I'll admit that Ruskell and company know a lot more than I do about it and probably have legitimate reasons for the way they played it. I'll defer to their judgement because you can't fix all problems or have great backups at every position at your beck and call with only 53 players. I think we're in deep do do right now but it's not over yet.
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written by Seahawk Addicts, September 21, 2009
written by Seahawk Addicts, September 21, 2009
High Ankle sprains are generally 4-6 week injuries, not season-enders. When surgery is required, which is rare, it's a 6-month recovery period (aka, season ender). Some recover within 2-3 weeks.
We won't know much for another week or two, I would imagine, but we can make some judgments based on who the Hawks bring in. Of course, Lock and/or Wilson would be IR'd immediately if surgery ends up being required.
We won't know much for another week or two, I would imagine, but we can make some judgments based on who the Hawks bring in. Of course, Lock and/or Wilson would be IR'd immediately if surgery ends up being required.
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Sorry Seahawk Fans
written by Dave Hafsten, September 21, 2009
written by Dave Hafsten, September 21, 2009
The writing is on the wall. The seahawks are on the way down, due to unexplainable injuries. It's time to plan for the future. Like a 6'5, 240lbs Quarterback.
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written by kelphelper, September 21, 2009
written by kelphelper, September 21, 2009
positive comments:
frye, sims, vallos, unger, willis? that's our starting line?!? wow. they did pretty well, and i have to say good job.
forsett definitely earned some more touches. i hope he gets them!
butler deserves some love for the outstanding special teams play. downing at the one foot line was an awesome play.
negative comments:
the injury situation is pretty rediculous! the silver lining is that these players should be back by midseason, but still..
the defense had no swagger whatsoever. hard hits were tough to come by, and we got very little pressure on the qb. i really didn't like the play calling on that side of the ball.
brian billick as a commentator drives me nuts.
frye, sims, vallos, unger, willis? that's our starting line?!? wow. they did pretty well, and i have to say good job.
forsett definitely earned some more touches. i hope he gets them!
butler deserves some love for the outstanding special teams play. downing at the one foot line was an awesome play.
negative comments:
the injury situation is pretty rediculous! the silver lining is that these players should be back by midseason, but still..
the defense had no swagger whatsoever. hard hits were tough to come by, and we got very little pressure on the qb. i really didn't like the play calling on that side of the ball.
brian billick as a commentator drives me nuts.
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written by BillT, September 21, 2009
written by BillT, September 21, 2009
Isn't a high ankle sprain what Branch and then Burleson suffered? Did they both have the kind that required surgery and that's why it was a year's worth of rehab to get back to 100% or did they have a different injury? Chris?
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written by Steve S., September 21, 2009
written by Steve S., September 21, 2009
Let's see. Two starting tackles, starting center, starting left guard if you count Wahle. Starting fullback. Starting running back. Starting quarterback. Starting WR if you count Branch. That's 6-8 offensive starters.
Starting defensive tackle. Two starting linebackers. Starting corner. Third corner/nickleback. That's 4-5 on defense.
Starting defensive tackle. Two starting linebackers. Starting corner. Third corner/nickleback. That's 4-5 on defense.
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written by USAFANARC, September 21, 2009
written by USAFANARC, September 21, 2009
BillT,
So, if we don't take Curry, then we'd have three back-up quality LB's starting instead of two back-ups and Curry (a legitimate starter, however raw). Six in one hand, 1/2 dozen in another, IMO.
Even worse...we could have taken Crabtree (who, I admittedly started to like as the draft neared)!
Walt doesn't suddenly need a second surgery, Spencer doesn't hurt himself, and Lock doesn't sprain his ankle and we'd be saying, "Boy sure glad we picked up Curry since Lofa and Hill are out!
So, if we don't take Curry, then we'd have three back-up quality LB's starting instead of two back-ups and Curry (a legitimate starter, however raw). Six in one hand, 1/2 dozen in another, IMO.
Even worse...we could have taken Crabtree (who, I admittedly started to like as the draft neared)!
Walt doesn't suddenly need a second surgery, Spencer doesn't hurt himself, and Lock doesn't sprain his ankle and we'd be saying, "Boy sure glad we picked up Curry since Lofa and Hill are out!
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Just say no to Tebow!
written by omarlittle, September 21, 2009
written by omarlittle, September 21, 2009
No way we draft this guy. If we do i'm declaring an offical full out rebuild mode al la the Rams or Chiefs. This guy will be the biggest bust EVER, no joke he'll make all the Mirer's and Leaf's look like Manning and Palmer in comparison.
Bill Walsh once said you can tell how good a QB is by watching their feet. Watch Tebows feet, worst feet I've ever seen in a potential first round pick maybe out of any QB projected to get drafted, in any round. Do you really want a spread offense system QB with poor footwork, mediorce accuracy, poor touch passes, bad mechanics, snail speed release, and a lefty. And his coach also gave the NFL Alex Smith. His school gave us Rex Grossman, not exactally encouraging.
Denvers pick is better spent on a LT or a QB like Bradord. Ideally we get a LT first, then Snead (my favorite QB) with our pick, and trade up into round 2 to get Jon Dwyer. Let San Fran or Jacksonville waste a pick on Tebow, Ruskell is smart enough to pass on an overhyped Pat White.
Bill Walsh once said you can tell how good a QB is by watching their feet. Watch Tebows feet, worst feet I've ever seen in a potential first round pick maybe out of any QB projected to get drafted, in any round. Do you really want a spread offense system QB with poor footwork, mediorce accuracy, poor touch passes, bad mechanics, snail speed release, and a lefty. And his coach also gave the NFL Alex Smith. His school gave us Rex Grossman, not exactally encouraging.
Denvers pick is better spent on a LT or a QB like Bradord. Ideally we get a LT first, then Snead (my favorite QB) with our pick, and trade up into round 2 to get Jon Dwyer. Let San Fran or Jacksonville waste a pick on Tebow, Ruskell is smart enough to pass on an overhyped Pat White.
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written by Halkboy14, September 21, 2009
written by Halkboy14, September 21, 2009
If you look at this whole thing overall, i am really disapointed with TJ Houshmanzadeh.
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written by huskyhawk12, September 21, 2009
written by huskyhawk12, September 21, 2009
This seasons not over but the injuries and "Bad Play Babs" shows how bad we need to draft hopefully ERIC BERRY!!! or Taylor Mays, both are good. hopefully we get a good enough pick for ERIC BERRY!!!
Then use our other pick on hopefully a LT, but hell i'd take any lineman at this point, or a QB. NOT Tim Tebow! I like Colt Mccoy and Chris Snead.
Then use our other pick on hopefully a LT, but hell i'd take any lineman at this point, or a QB. NOT Tim Tebow! I like Colt Mccoy and Chris Snead.
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written by BillT, September 21, 2009
written by BillT, September 21, 2009
USAFANARC,
Here's the quote from my comment:
"I have to admit that when Curry became available, that pretty much made it the mandatory pick and even though the boo birds already are criticizing Ruskell for picking Curry because he didn't just destroy Frisco single handedly (which is an absolute crock)....."
What part of that didn't you get? I said that we had to draft Curry (as in it was mandatory). I then suggested that instead of drafting Unger at the expense of our third and fourth rounder plus we still had our second rounder at that point, we could have tried to make a deal for Oher who was still available at around number 20 IIRC. He was considered top 10 ten material by some scouts and had fallen quite a bit below where he should have been taken. That would have been a real coup to get Curry and Oher in the same draft. Right now Oher would look pretty good at LT.
I also pointed out that some fans are already bashing Ruskell for drafting Curry because he didn't have a spectatcular game last Sunday for which I said and I quote: "which is an absolute crock".
I just wanted to clarify because it sounded like that you somehow think I said we should have drafted Oher instead of Curry and I said no such thing.
Here's the quote from my comment:
"I have to admit that when Curry became available, that pretty much made it the mandatory pick and even though the boo birds already are criticizing Ruskell for picking Curry because he didn't just destroy Frisco single handedly (which is an absolute crock)....."
What part of that didn't you get? I said that we had to draft Curry (as in it was mandatory). I then suggested that instead of drafting Unger at the expense of our third and fourth rounder plus we still had our second rounder at that point, we could have tried to make a deal for Oher who was still available at around number 20 IIRC. He was considered top 10 ten material by some scouts and had fallen quite a bit below where he should have been taken. That would have been a real coup to get Curry and Oher in the same draft. Right now Oher would look pretty good at LT.
I also pointed out that some fans are already bashing Ruskell for drafting Curry because he didn't have a spectatcular game last Sunday for which I said and I quote: "which is an absolute crock".
I just wanted to clarify because it sounded like that you somehow think I said we should have drafted Oher instead of Curry and I said no such thing.
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Seahawks 24......Bears...17.
written by AK Seahawk , September 21, 2009
written by AK Seahawk , September 21, 2009
There, I said it. I will be there Sunday, and by God I will yell and yell and yell until I can yell no more!!! Fella's have a little faith! Yes we are battered. Yes, we do not have our finest. However, I do not see the Bears, there head case QB, mediocre WR, old and broken down defense, coming to Qwest and walking away with a win. Expecially with the noise of the 12th Man! When the Seahawks hear that stadium of 67 thousand people screaming at the top of there heads, they will get fired up and the Bears won't know what to do. I don't like the injury situation anymore than the rest of you, but goodness gracious fella's pull your heads out!!! Remember the Pat's game last year? Our starting line-up was way worse than this. It's FUCKING GO TIME!!!
Oh, and BillT, Burelson and Branched had ACL injuries, not high ankle sprains. ACLinjuries are way more severe.
Oh, and BillT, Burelson and Branched had ACL injuries, not high ankle sprains. ACLinjuries are way more severe.
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written by nightwulf, September 21, 2009
written by nightwulf, September 21, 2009
Mora's good with a running QB, and Seneca's a MUCH better QB than Vick will ever be, maybe he opens up some stuff for Wallace, instead of trying (as Holmy did) to make him into Hass 2.0
Not sure what to think of all these injuries, nor am I sure what to think of Da Bearsh...I still think we can win this game, and after seeing Indy tonight, they don't look like world beaters either...I'm not giving up, but I AM begging for Berry and an LT in the 1st...I'm still thinking we should give Teel at least another year, before throwing an early round pick on a QB...And for the love of GOD, FORGET Tebow!
Not sure what to think of all these injuries, nor am I sure what to think of Da Bearsh...I still think we can win this game, and after seeing Indy tonight, they don't look like world beaters either...I'm not giving up, but I AM begging for Berry and an LT in the 1st...I'm still thinking we should give Teel at least another year, before throwing an early round pick on a QB...And for the love of GOD, FORGET Tebow!
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written by BillT, September 22, 2009
written by BillT, September 22, 2009
You guys talking about quarterbacks, what if Jake Locker comes out after this season? Some say he's the best quarterback in college football. Wouldn't he be a great fit for the Seahawks being a home town boy?
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written by andymuhs, September 22, 2009
written by andymuhs, September 22, 2009
Jake Locker is not coming out til next year, you can guarantee that!!! after last years horrible year he wants to win a couple years... but he is going to be a great nfl quarterback, his accuracy has gotten so much better and he is a beast running the ball, he also seems to be getting alot better at his decision making
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Mora's comment on Brandon Frye..
written by Family Jewels, September 22, 2009
written by Family Jewels, September 22, 2009
Some on the "boards" have said he did well and others disagree. That said, was Mora's comment about his play and compliment....or not?
On Brandon Frye: "He wasn't noticeable, and [as an offensive lineman] that's the best thing they can say about you."
On Brandon Frye: "He wasn't noticeable, and [as an offensive lineman] that's the best thing they can say about you."
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written by USAFANARC, September 22, 2009
written by USAFANARC, September 22, 2009
Bill,
Your first paragraph is a scathing "I told you so!" and that was what I was reacting to. You pulled back a bit in the next couple of paragraphs, but I couldn't let the first paragraph go. You've done a much better job in your next post to explain yourself and I understand your point much better....don't agree cause I love the Unger pick, but I understand.
Your first paragraph is a scathing "I told you so!" and that was what I was reacting to. You pulled back a bit in the next couple of paragraphs, but I couldn't let the first paragraph go. You've done a much better job in your next post to explain yourself and I understand your point much better....don't agree cause I love the Unger pick, but I understand.
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written by omarlittle, September 22, 2009
written by omarlittle, September 22, 2009
If locker declared early what round do you guys see him being drafted in? Personally I don't fully trust Pac-10 QBs but I'll admit I don't know alot about Locker so I give him the benefit of the doubt until I find more out.
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written by CWEH, September 22, 2009
written by CWEH, September 22, 2009
You UW fans are crazy! Locker the best QB in the NCAA? lol that has to be the funniest thing I have heard! He is poor man's Tim Teboew and he is not better then colt McCoy. The kid is good and I can see him be a beast his senior year, but to crown him the best QB in College Football is outlandish. If he gets picked in next years draft, I see him as a 3rd or 4th round pick.
Anyways, am I the only person here that thinks Forsett should get a start just once? Lets be honest, Holmy is a master of offense and if he benched JJ, then I assume there was a reason. Even Bill Parc benched him! Get the point he is not good. Average at best. my 2 cent.
Anyways, am I the only person here that thinks Forsett should get a start just once? Lets be honest, Holmy is a master of offense and if he benched JJ, then I assume there was a reason. Even Bill Parc benched him! Get the point he is not good. Average at best. my 2 cent.
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written by S.TTBM, September 24, 2009
written by S.TTBM, September 24, 2009
Billt---Branch has had multiple injuries, which include two knee surgeries, a hurt heel, and various ankle sprains. Burleson has broken his finger and blown his knee. To my knowledge, a high ankle sprain never ended either players year. DJ Hackett was the guy that was always getting a high ankle sprain and missing 6-8 weeks at a time...
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written by S.TTBM, September 24, 2009
written by S.TTBM, September 24, 2009
Also, anyone who is giving Ruskell crap for picking Curry at this point is an utter fool: Curry played pretty well, especially for a rookie. He made some egreious rookie mistakes, but all in all he was solid and his athleticism was apparent. Remember too, he was playing without his general--Tatupu--who is normally responsible for calling LB assignments. There was bound to be some mistakes made scheme-wise by Hawthorne. Not all curry's fault.
Billt--Oher is playing well, yes--but not at LT. LT is a whole other ballgame. And while hindsight says it might have been a good idea to get Oher by trading our second, we wouldnt have Denver's first rounder coming up if we had done that. And at the time, RG was a bigger need than LT. Or are you comfortable with Wrotto at RG? I know Im not, and thats even considering the fact that Unger had a horrible game against the Niners.
Billt--Oher is playing well, yes--but not at LT. LT is a whole other ballgame. And while hindsight says it might have been a good idea to get Oher by trading our second, we wouldnt have Denver's first rounder coming up if we had done that. And at the time, RG was a bigger need than LT. Or are you comfortable with Wrotto at RG? I know Im not, and thats even considering the fact that Unger had a horrible game against the Niners.
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